VW Group facing billion $ fines and criminal charges in US

[Mike E]

Here is a summary of VW's mounting financial and reputational woes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/francesc...into-the-mire/

[chillibowl]

yeah the CO2 allegations are a new level of bad for the company.

so i own a 2014 Jetta 1.8: TSI and to be honest i have never felt i have gotten the advertised gas mileage. no doubt most of it comes down to how i drive so i dismissed it to city driving, tires, the cold of Winnipeg etc but with this i have to wonder if there is a larger issue.

that said, everyone who owns an affected VW have at their fingertips a fuel mileage display (but who knows how well those even work)...if they were actually interested in fuel usage would they have/should they have noticed they were not getting what was advertised. perhaps they explained it away as i did.

but given the number of cars involved, im curious as to either why this took so long before anyone actually looked into this and/or how VW though they could get away with this for as long as they did?

[Gungebucket]

[QUOTE=GORDON STREETER;3576268]But people in the know have known these silly loopholes for years so why does it take America to shout first ? things like pumping air into the exhaust to dilute the gasses and DPFs that just simply collect "soot" and chuck it out "up the road" have been going on for a long time ![/QUO
I don't know where you got these ideas from but you really should be more careful before posting such misleading information. Try Googling "ManAirOx" for some correct information on "pumping air into the exhaust". DPFs do indeed collect the soot, but the soot is later burnt off during regeneration, either actively or passively. It is not just chucked out "up the road"!!

[GORDON STREETER]

[QUOTE=Gungebucket;3604107]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

But people in the know have known these silly loopholes for years so why does it take America to shout first ? things like pumping air into the exhaust to dilute the gasses and DPFs that just simply collect "soot" and chuck it out "up the road" have been going on for a long time ![/QUO
I don't know where you got these ideas from but you really should be more careful before posting such misleading information. Try Googling "ManAirOx" for some correct information on "pumping air into the exhaust". DPFs do indeed collect the soot, but the soot is later burnt off during regeneration, either actively or passively. It is not just chucked out "up the road"!!

Believe what you like but still being actively involved in the garage trade for the last 50 years tell me what you do for a living ?
I often have to do regenerations and "forced regenerations" on cars with DPFs and I would like you to stand behind a car whilst I am doing it and you may change your mind !!
As you have had a pop at me I suggest that you don't believe all what you read on the internet and find the real truth, I can be a "keyboard warrior" as well as you

[justracing]

Investigations now going on at Renault also. Evidently there is the suspicion that they too may have been cheating emission tests. Now there's a surprise. The VW situation is merely the tip of the iceberg.

[chillibowl]

bit of a bump here.

after looking like a settlement was near, the investigation took a new turn for at least one VW exec as he was arrested over the weekend by the American FBI arrested on a conspiracy charge.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/bu...ettlement.html

with the turn over in the US gov't quickly approaching i cant help but feel there is a political game being played out but on the other hand the scale of the deception means that there should be greater consequences at the executive level of VW greater then just monetary fines.

[fieldodreams79]

Certainly seems to be much deeper than I initially thought.

Executive salaries are sickening and I certainly agree that when the power is abused, harsh punishments should been issued.

[chillibowl]

this may be neither here nor there but i wonder how many VW exec are in Detroit right now for the auto show?

i have a mental image of private planes and VW execs fleeing the US at an alarming rate.

[JHamilton]

I just find it funny that West Virginia University did the study that uncovered this. Who is WVU's largest donor? The coal lobby!

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

I just find it funny that West Virginia University did the study that uncovered this. Who is WVU's largest donor? The coal lobby!

Makes perfect sense

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

I just find it funny that West Virginia University did the study that uncovered this. Who is WVU's largest donor? The coal lobby!

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Makes perfect sense

Smoke & Mirrors?