WEC Race 6 Hours of Portimao [Race Thread] - Page 2

**Adam43** · 14 Apr 2023, 18:57 (Ref:4151501)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike E

Wowser. Thank goodness no one attends these events.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uCb0FIZfLmg

The worlds worst cameraman caught the Porsche crash

And it includes the illness that is portrait video.

**joeb** · 14 Apr 2023, 19:02 (Ref:4151504)

Ive seen cars flip up when hitting tires before, but that got some serious distance! And there really isn't much else you can do in this situation. There was paved runoff, followed by gravel, followed by tires and fencing, and still the car is in the stands.

Mike E · 14 Apr 2023, 19:10 (Ref:4151506)

DSC reports says no brakes

**Aysedasi** · 14 Apr 2023, 19:21 (Ref:4151508)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uCb0FIZfLmg

The worlds worst cameraman caught the Porsche crash

Perhaps if he wasn't one of the 'selfie' generation who have no clue about holding their phone around the correct way for video he might have got more of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

And it includes the illness that is portrait video.

Man it really annoys me!!!

Super scary accident though.

**Adam43** · 14 Apr 2023, 20:50 (Ref:4151518)

I think we are in serious danger of ruining a race thread here.

We’ve got more relevant threads where this can breathe without ruining the race weekend thread.

**Adam43** · 14 Apr 2023, 21:00 (Ref:4151519)

The race weekend.

Timetabe

Circuit map useful for sectors and the like

Entry list

The times so far:

First Practice
Second Practice

Top speeds. That an interesting one. They are highlighting that top five averages.
Look at the variation in LMP2 here, compared to the other classes.

All from the usual place.

KlBD · 14 Apr 2023, 21:02 (Ref:4151520)

Considering you guys already had this whole discussion during Sebring, probably no need to do it again so soon, haha

Lately, it seems even the specter of the word "BoP" makes people behave in strange ways

But I just want to reiterate - we haven't even heard the manufacturers (the ones shelling out big money for these ad campaigns on wheels

) themselves complain yet, and people are already up in arms!

Simmi · 14 Apr 2023, 21:03 (Ref:4151521)

FP3 stream link ahead of tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGcfyzKdpsM

11:05am BST* (*other time zones are available).

**Adam43** · 14 Apr 2023, 21:06 (Ref:4151522)

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Originally Posted by Hedley Verity

I was round the other side of the Rotunda when the accident happened so didn’t see it, but it was obvious it wasn’t a normal red flag situation as circuit vehicles were immediately on the move all round the track and internal roads, couldn’t believe what i was seeing when I did see the situation, very scary for a while until it became clear no spectators were involved

Alexandre Areia, in the Porsche that crashed, looked like he’d been going quite well up to qualifying and the crash. 3rd overall in free practice.

What’s the weather and track like?

**Adam43** · 14 Apr 2023, 21:06 (Ref:4151523)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

FP3 stream link ahead of tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGcfyzKdpsM

11:05am BST* (*other time zones are available).

Thanks

broadrun96 · 15 Apr 2023, 02:21 (Ref:4151565)

I'm more interested in this than Long Beach somehow, think the real race track is more interesting than the walls. Hopefully I'll get to catch some of it and listen late and doing rear brakes on my truck this weekend.

**Adam43** · 15 Apr 2023, 02:59 (Ref:4151570)

Me too. It’s a proper length. Although I’m a fan of the odd stupid silly event even if they are far from their natural habitat.

Toyotats03OUS · 15 Apr 2023, 10:29 (Ref:4151586)

Vanwall currently 4th fastest with a 1:32.922

Toyotats03OUS · 15 Apr 2023, 10:38 (Ref:4151587)

The number 8 toyota is currently on top with a 1:31:795 at a spd of 308.57 while the ferrary is second wiht a 1:31.984 at a spd 310.34

PhilipR · 15 Apr 2023, 11:15 (Ref:4151588)

The vanwall does not look bad at all - in the mix so far with the group behind Toyota and Ferrari

The glick seems way of the pace which is quite concerning considering they have 2 years of running

Porsche still off the pace

**joeb** · 15 Apr 2023, 11:19 (Ref:4151589)

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Originally Posted by Toyotats03OUS

Vanwall currently 4th fastest with a 1:32.922

And finishes ahead of one of the Ferrari!

One Peugeot had a nice showing in 4th at the end.

**Adam43** · 15 Apr 2023, 11:48 (Ref:4151593)

Well, we’ve all been saying we expect that Vanwall to go well - it’ll be on fire we said.

Fun to see and good to see Peugeot have a little pace.

Just a one off, just practice, or can they make this pace consistent?

GHOGH · 15 Apr 2023, 11:55 (Ref:4151594)

Porsche in the seating (turn 1 incident) at Algarve International Circuit, Portimao.
Obviously, the FIA etc on site will be able to make the most informed point of view/ report, follow-up etc.
The grandstand where the incident occurred has been closed.

My own keyboard observations - 1) the circuit appears as though it could also work in a reverse direction with modifications. Instead of the tight turn 1 at the end of the front straight, the sweeper 15 (at the end of a reversed front straight could allow more run off area, though with a lot of reduced crowd seating) 2) Using the existing clockwise direction, an extra chicane (in the sweeper 15 area) could reduce entry speeds onto the front straight and reduce the speeds for braking before the tight turn 1. 3) What appears to be the 'solution for some circuits' is the current fence with a higher back fence and moving the seating further back or reducing the seating in the area. (about 10 sections)

**Adam43** · 15 Apr 2023, 12:56 (Ref:4151602)

Indeed, the FIA are on it: https://www.autosport.com/wec/news/f...rash/10456352/

Coach Ep · 15 Apr 2023, 14:23 (Ref:4151607)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GHOGH

Porsche in the seating (turn 1 incident) at Algarve International Circuit, Portimao.
Obviously, the FIA etc on site will be able to make the most informed point of view/ report, follow-up etc.
The grandstand where the incident occurred has been closed.

My own keyboard observations - 1) the circuit appears as though it could also work in a reverse direction with modifications. Instead of the tight turn 1 at the end of the front straight, the sweeper 15 (at the end of a reversed front straight could allow more run off area, though with a lot of reduced crowd seating) 2) Using the existing clockwise direction, an extra chicane (in the sweeper 15 area) could reduce entry speeds onto the front straight and reduce the speeds for braking before the tight turn 1. 3) What appears to be the 'solution for some circuits' is the current fence with a higher back fence and moving the seating further back or reducing the seating in the area. (about 10 sections)

The size of the runoff area wasn't exactly the problem there so running counter wouldn't be an improvement in that regard.

Please no shitty chicane!

A separate tire wall in front of the permanent barrier might be more helpful as the tires will simply move backwards in its entirety, instead of getting compressed before expanding and launching a car to unimaginable locations.

**joeb** · 15 Apr 2023, 14:36 (Ref:4151610)

And qualifying has begun. Keating on top early.

**joeb** · 15 Apr 2023, 14:44 (Ref:4151613)

Bovy to the top!

But now Ben back at the end

Ferrari333SP · 15 Apr 2023, 15:16 (Ref:4151625)

LMP2 pole by .001

**FIRE** · 15 Apr 2023, 15:17 (Ref:4151626)

What's wrong with WRT?
edit: now 5th and 7th.

Gingers4Justice · 15 Apr 2023, 15:18 (Ref:4151627)

I know he didn't get pole, but that was an outrageous performance from Aubry in that session.

Wonder if #63 will get some sort of penalty though...

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