Looking to get into motorsport photography - Page 2

PaulSands · 24 Sep 2005, 20:04 (Ref:1415580)

Probably not

You got one on your site anyway...everybody else's I've seen they're always posing behind a big lense

MikeHoyer · 24 Sep 2005, 20:07 (Ref:1415581)

Not a very good one though, was back in March. I started a topic anyway...

Ian Sowman · 24 Sep 2005, 20:08 (Ref:1415582)

No, it is an absolutely terrible one

MikeHoyer · 24 Sep 2005, 20:14 (Ref:1415586)

Take a better one then, if I come to Cadwell tomorrow!

PaulSands · 24 Sep 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1415590)

You're at Cadwell too? I should've gone to Croft

MikeHoyer · 24 Sep 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1415591)

Only as a spectator, and only if I get up in time... if not I'll go to Snetterton again.

PaulSands · 24 Sep 2005, 20:21 (Ref:1415592)

Whats at Snett? (sorry off topic I know..I'll shut up now

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MikeHoyer · 24 Sep 2005, 20:23 (Ref:1415593)

UK Formula Fords etc. Got this one today

http://www.mdh-photography.co.uk/fford_airborne.jpg

PaulSands · 24 Sep 2005, 20:24 (Ref:1415595)

nice...sending it off to AutoSprout I would assume??

Happy Snapper · 24 Sep 2005, 20:46 (Ref:1415604)

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Originally Posted by MikeHoyer

UK Formula Fords etc. Got this one today

http://www.mdh-photography.co.uk/fford_airborne.jpg

nice one mike are you doing the WHT @ Silverstone in November?

MikeHoyer · 24 Sep 2005, 20:50 (Ref:1415607)

I would, but there was two media photogs there aswell, so they probably got it.

Should be at the WHT, yeah. It's my birthday present...

David L · 25 Sep 2005, 07:39 (Ref:1415783)

Cripes.. I veto any ideas of putting up mug shots of us on here on the grounds that we may break the board with a collective ugliness factor....

Oh, OK, with my ugliness then..

I'm quite happy to remain annonymous..

Happy Snapper · 26 Sep 2005, 06:50 (Ref:1416527)

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Originally Posted by David L

Cripes.. I veto any ideas of putting up mug shots of us on here on the grounds that we may break the board with a collective ugliness factor....

Oh, OK, with my ugliness then..

I'm quite happy to remain annonymous..

Sounds fair and reasonable to me.. If photographers what to be identified fine and if they don’t let them have their anonymity…..

stefan · 26 Sep 2005, 11:19 (Ref:1416763)

Back to the thread topic I'd say take it slow to start with. Either with the gear you've got (perhaps you'll find a cheap 2nd hand long lens) or with an entry level Digital SLR - it has to be an slr really - they don't suffer from lag and the picture quality of a reasonable quality dedicated long lens is always going to be better than a built in 28-400 on a point and shoot - they focus quicker too. Look out for second hand deals - digital bodies get supersceded so quickly these days - the price is constantly coming down - if you're going to spend lots spend it on lenses as you can keep those.

It's a very competitive area though and only a few people make lots of money from it - but it is terrific fun - get out there, take some shots for us to look at - you'll get lots of helpful critique from the people on the forum here.

(Another cost worth mentioning is public liability insurance. I know a lot of naughty people don't bother but some circuits insist on it - about £130 for a year)

gungadan · 26 Sep 2005, 11:42 (Ref:1416797)

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Originally Posted by stefan

Back to the thread topic I'd say take it slow to start with.
(Another cost worth mentioning is public liability insurance. I know a lot of naughty people don't bother but some circuits insist on it - about £130 for a year)

What does public liabilty insurance cover you for then? It sounds like it's not what I thought it was.

MikeHoyer · 26 Sep 2005, 11:44 (Ref:1416799)

Basically if something happens to you or someone as a result of your actions at the track you're covered for it. I've got it, don't get asked for it very often t hough.

stefan · 26 Sep 2005, 11:57 (Ref:1416819)

I haven't read the full terms yet but it's basically to cover the property, medical and legal costs of people getting injured by me or my equipment whilst I'm out and about. This might be someone stubbing their toe on my tripod or me and my camera smashing through a cars windscreen and causing a multiple pile-up as I'm mown down in the pit lane.

gungadan · 26 Sep 2005, 12:47 (Ref:1416861)

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Originally Posted by stefan

I haven't read the full terms yet but it's basically to cover the property, medical and legal costs of people getting injured by me or my equipment whilst I'm out and about. This might be someone stubbing their toe on my tripod or me and my camera smashing through a cars windscreen and causing a multiple pile-up as I'm mown down in the pit lane.

Thanks fellas. Understood.

mcurtis26 · 26 Sep 2005, 16:21 (Ref:1417061)

Photoguard is probably your best bet for PLI, they charge around anoither 60 quid to increase it to the £5m which MSV ask for.

Hubble · 28 Sep 2005, 22:50 (Ref:1419456)

I went to Photoguard, paid £261 for £5000 equipment cover and £5M PLI (for MSV circuits mainly) Most places don't ask for it, but Donington Park did request a copy of my PLI cert for an event recently. Also, you need it for test days, as they are not covered by normal event insurance.

MikeHoyer · 28 Sep 2005, 23:37 (Ref:1419488)

I went with them aswell, seemed like a pretty good deal.

Only ever been asked to produce it at test days, and MSV have it on file.

gungadan · 29 Sep 2005, 11:48 (Ref:1419861)

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Originally Posted by Hubble

I went to Photoguard, paid £261 for £5000 equipment cover and £5M PLI (for MSV circuits mainly) Most places don't ask for it, but Donington Park did request a copy of my PLI cert for an event recently. Also, you need it for test days, as they are not covered by normal event insurance.

Hmm. Interesting. I've never been asked anywhere including Donington but maybe it's only a matter of time. The single event application form for MSV doesn't mention it but I seem to remember at least one circuit (maybe Mallory?) asks for a certificate number (or something) on the application. I just left it blank and still got my pass.

Maybe they're less bothered at club events. It would certainly cut down the number of amateurs if they start to insist on it.

Incidentally what's the position with marshals? Are they covered by their club/ the circuit?

MikeHoyer · 29 Sep 2005, 11:53 (Ref:1419866)

I would assume by their club.

But I'm still a little confused by this PLI thing, even though I have it... at race meetings are you covered by the circuit? I've heard this, but at tests there isn't event insurance, so you have to have your own...

Ian Sowman · 29 Sep 2005, 11:54 (Ref:1419868)

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Originally Posted by gungadan

Maybe they're less bothered at club events. It would certainly cut down the number of amateurs if they start to insist on it.

There shouldn't be any 'amateurs' trackside anywhere - only people representing bona fide media organisations at that specific event.

gungadan · 29 Sep 2005, 12:02 (Ref:1419876)

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Originally Posted by Ian Sowman

There shouldn't be any 'amateurs' trackside anywhere - only people representing bona fide media organisations at that specific event.

You can represent a bona fide organisation without being paid.

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