You're Hired !!!

[Omega99]

You know, a while back I made up a schedule that could be used for next year if CART and IRL merged (a dream? perhaps), but then I kinda realise that I don't care about the IRL, and only like maybe three of their tracks: Michigan, Nazareth, and Indy. But assuming Indy is out of the question, and a merger did not go through, here's my dream schedule, in no particular order

St. Petersurg, USA (street)
Monterrey, MEX (road)
Surfer's Paradise, AUS (street)
Long Beach, USA (street)
Brands Hatch, GBR (road)
Spa, BEL (road)
Lausitz, GER (oval)
Milwaukee, USA (oval)
Laguna Seca, USA (road)
Portland, USA (road)
Cleveland, USA (airport)
Toronto, CAN (street)
Michigan, USA (oval)
Road America, USA (road)
Mid-Ohio, USA (road)
Nazareth, USA (oval)
Montreal, CAN (road)
Vancouver, CAN (street)
Fontana, USA (oval)
Mexico City, MEX (road)
Brazil (somewhere, and I don't care what type of track)
Hawaii, USA (street)
Las Vegas, USA (street)

That's 23 tracks. 8 street/airport, 9 road, 5 oval, and one TBA.

Macdaddy, I really think you're on to something with the Honolulu race. It could be that marquee race CART is looking for... and combined with a Las Vegas street race on the same schedule! Pure magic!

[evo]

I thought the "roval" in Rio was always pretty entertaining. If they were going back to Brazil, I would think it'd be Rio, either on the Emmerson Fittipaldi Speedway, or the full road course named after some other F1 champion

But please, not Interlagos...

[rustyfan]

So, what's so bad about Interlagos?

[bcobbus]

From what i have geard, the roval in Rio is to be sold off and made into homes, or something along those lines. I too love the track with its odd layout!

[Tenoch]

a third mexican race should be added for near future after the series gets back on it's feet, sure there are best sites in Europe but the interest is lacking with so few European drivers.

I think CART should reap the benefits of a third race in Mexico where they are always infront of sell out crowds, and they should also go to China just because the Chinese people deserve high quality racing and there's over a billion of them.

[Lee Janotta]

The Chinese people do, but they also deserve a government that doesn't run them over with tanks for demanding basic rights, or conduct sterilization programs on the rural poor.

High-profile events like this in China only lend legitimacy to that brutal regime.

I say we have a race in Taiwan just to cheese off those murderers in Beijing.

Do you have a suggestion for a third venue in Mexico?

[Jay]

Lee, you're thinking in the past in China...they're practically a capitalist country now. I never did get the stupid American attitude that because you didn't like the govt the people should suffer. The major cities in China are just like any others in asia, and could easily get 200,000+ for a race in a major city, compared to the 20-30K you might get an American oval located int he middle of nowhere.

That said, unless it brings in significant sponsorship, I can't see how running a race in China would benefit Cart. It won't get us any TV contracts, any new manufacturers and it's not a market that Cart must have. A race in Korea or Japan would have much more potential IMO.

[BobbyB]

Originally posted by Jay
the stupid American attitude

Jay, I thought you were above that sort of thing...

[captain crunch]

now you've asked for it.............

ok forget how practical it is this is completely hypothetical (i quite like the occasional flight of fancy)

ok then assuming the CART/IRL/F1 thing has been resolved and there is an agreed "undisputed" open-wheel world championship, i would have the following events (im going for a 36 race calendar to compete with NASCAR, im using that as a "benchmark")

round-venue-country
1-milwaukee-usa
2-bathurst-australia
3-shanghai-china
4-nazareth-usa
5-surfer's paradise-australia
6-moscow-russia
7-indianapolis-usa
8-monac0-monaco
9-dubai-uae
10-bristol-usa
11-goa-macau
12-vancouver-canada
13-cleveland-usa
14-lausitzring-germany
15-"that oval in holland which name i cant remember"-holland
16-elkhart lake-usa
17-mexico city-mexico
18-monza-italy
19-texas-usa
20-le mans-france
21-a1-ring-austria
22 long beach-usa
23-hungaroring-hungary
24-estoril-portugal
25-rockingham-uk
26-barcelona-spain
27-spa francorchamps-belgium
28-brands hatch-uk
29-sepang-malaysia
30-kyalami-south africa
31-interlagos-brazil
32-buenos aires-argentina
33-suzuka-japan
34-motegi-japan
35-*new circuit*-bahrain
36-nurburgring-nordschleife (still the greatest lol)

i'd been toying with the idea of having a "pool" of drivers ie. each driver would be limited to taking part in a maximum of, say 20 races

hmm.......ive gone into a whole fantasy championship here.....i wont start on my bizarre qualifying procedures..........


one for the "if i ruled the world" box

[racefanatic]

WHOA!!!

That sounds like fun though! Hey, I want to hear about the qualifying!

[Dov]

Captain Crunch, I think your schedule needs more races!

[Stephenw]

how the hades are you going to run all those F1 tracks *AND* steal new markets from F1?

lol

nice pipe dream though...

[captain crunch]

well you asked about qualifying..........

and stephenw i said that calendar would be the result of a combined fi/CART/IRL schedule, so 36 wouldnt be too unreasonable given that there would be a different team/driver lineup at each race as each driver would be limited to taking part in (say) 20 races.

in my opinion, a world championship should be just that-global-so i would have races just about everywhere

anyways to the qualifying procedures.....

for friday "free practice" the cars go out in reverse championship order 1 minute apart from each other and get two hours tracktime. The cars MUST go out at their alloted time, but can complete as many or as few laps as they like within the 2 hours. This "off setting" means everyone would have a better chance of completing a few "flying laps" during practice.

friday pre-qualifying- cars are "ranked" according to free practice best times. Fastest in free practice goes first, 2nd fastest 2nd and so on down the field. This would be the same format as formula 1 pre-qualifying. 1st in pre-qual gets 3 championship points, 2nd gets 2, 3rd gets one. Pre-qual determines how many flying laps a driver gets during qualifying- the top third of the field in pre-qual gets 3 laps, middle third gets two laps and bottom third only one.

saturday qualifying- same format as the old-style formula 1 qualifying except each driver is limited to how many timed laps they get. Provisional pole scores two points, pole 8 points, 2nd 6, 3rd 5, 4th 4, 5th 3, 6th 2, 7th 1.

sunday-race- points awarded as follows-

postion-points
1-60
2-50
3-45
4-40
5-36
6-32
7-28
8-25
9-22
10-19
11-17
12-15
13-13
14-11
15-8
16-5
17-4
18-3
19-2
20-1

bonus points-

fastest lap-2pts
leading a lap-2pts
most laps led-3pts

this would mean, in a race weekend, everything affects everything else, eg. free practice affects pre-qual, pre-qual affects qualifying and so on.

i got this idea for the massive calendar from an article written by someone calling themselves "commando cody" about CART being a "flip side" to f1. In fact, this would be a cut-doen calendar-

CART (20)+FI (17)= 37

ANYWAYS, THIS IS GOING STRAIGHT BACK INTO THE "if i ruled the world" box.

[Bleu]

March 1st: St Petersburg
March 8th: Miami (Bayfront Park)
March 22nd: Homestead (oval)
April 5th: Long Beach
April 18/19th: Lausitzring
April 25/26th: Brands Hatch (GP Circuit)
May 16th: Motegi (Saturday)
May 24th: Indianapolis (maybe not in the series, but a possibility for the teams and drivers)
May 30th: Milwaukee (night race)
June 13th: Cleveland (night race)
June 21st: Sears Point
June 28th: Portland
July 12th: Vancouver
July 19th: Toronto
July 26th: Michigan (500 miles)
August 9th: Elkhart Lake
August 16th: Richmond
August 23rd: Watkins Glen
August 30th: Mid-Ohio
September 6th: Montreal
September 13th: Laguna Seca
September 20th: Mexico City
September 27th: Rio de Janeiro (road course)
October 10th: Surfer's Paradise
October 24th: Fontana (500 miles)
October 31st: Daytona (road course, night race)



One of the European races is on Saturday, depends on F1 schedule. (No CART and F1 race on the same day in Europe)

[Omega99]

What's that Captain Crunxh? Only 1 Canadian race??? No man, you can't do that to me...

[captain crunch]

omega99-

if, for any reason, the new circuits (moscow/dubai/bahrain etc.) could not be made to work, montreal, hockenheim,toronto and st.petersburg would be used as "reserves"

i have this all planned out, haven't i?

[Lee Janotta]

Good lord, I ignore this forum for a week, and a stupid statement like that is allowed to stand?

Hey Jay, is this your kindler, gentler China?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...cutions12.html
http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/01/tibet012803.htm
http://www.tibet.ca/wtnarchive/2001/7/9_4.html
http://www.american.edu/TED/prisonorgans.htm
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2003/521/521p20b.htm

Being capitalist has _nothing_ to do with being respectful of human rights. That sort of naivette will be the death of Democracy.

[Fish_Flake]

A country's human rights record has never played a part in whether a racing series goes there. Formula 1 was racing in Argentina even as their government was dumping its opposition into the Atlantic.

[Jay]

Geez, if I changed a few labels I'd almost believe those articles were tlaking about hte US, which btw has more people imprissioned than China, despite a much much smaller population. Anyway, if you want to discuss this, it should be in the Gravel Trap.

I don't see how it affects a race in China. It's still the largest market in the world, with the potential for a race that would dwarf all others. Are you going to punish those people because of things their government did?

[The Snout]

So a few hippies don't want China, I say reach out to them.