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Hasn't Gore actually said in interviews that V8 sponsorship worked well for his businesses?
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Keeping it fairly simple Mr Gore's general approach to motor racing whether it be with his sponsorships or his team are my motivations to criticize. A few examples 1) Mr Gores favourite and never ending tirades over the years involved his belief that v8 supercars was now run as a business needing enhanced professionalism and it was time for some team owners to step aside. However when another team poached a WPS Racing sponsor it appeared to be a professional business decision, but guess who screamed blue murder accusing the works team of treading on the poor little independent team. Hypocrisy at its finest. 2) The Ford relationship. Mr Gore's admirable ability to speak his mind on well just about anything worked against him when it came time to dealing with manufacturers. His decisions wear 'No Support From Ford' vindicated Fords decision to have nothing to do with the team and Mr Gore. Then there was the anti John Hewson T-Shirts WPS backed and distributed during this interesting time in V8SA history is another example. These two occassions called for diplomacy and tact, both were missing here which cost Mr Gore and opened him up for criticism. 3.) The Walker Racing ongoing affair http://www.crash.net/motorsport/indy..._with_fa?.html 4.) As britekman alluded to there is allegations of money owing as well. Tried my all to keep it short not to offend anyone but I hope that gives a little insight into my reasons for not bowing before said person for all his years service to motorsport Just to restate though, Mr Gore's financial contribution is a loss to motorsport however based on the above his actions, general attitude to motorsport and those around him will not be missed. Last edited by D.R.T.; 11 Nov 2008 at 12:45. |
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Thanks for the one two punch there boys.
You disagree with my thoughts on God (sorry Mr Gore) that is fine, he has left now it wont be an issue any longer. In the end I am glad you understood where I am coming from and we can agree to disagree on this part of history. |
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I must say from my perspective of having seen parts of the team up close. The sport benefitted from having him involved.
We all have some negative points and anyone can generally point them out regardless of context, I also had a few run-ins with Craig but feel that overall he made a very positive contribution to the sport. I feel if anything he was the victim of being led by the nose technically for the first couple of years where drivers and engines were blamed for results. He worked out what was happening and modified things appropriately. He put a lot of money into a lot of different aspects of the sport and we are better for it. |
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A mate of mine who is a very well known & respected engineer was invited up to qld a few years ago to have a chat to MR Gore about growing his Team.
The meeting lasted only about an hour an he left back to his home base down south. He said Mr Gore had a very poor understanding about V8 supercar racing and thought that with the momey he was prepared to thow at it he excpected to be a front runner in a year or so. Well my mate said he told him to keep dreaming and when he was prepared to up his budget forcasts by about ten times he would talk to him again. |
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excuse my ignorance, and being slightly off topic, but was Sanctuary Cove the one that burnt down and then got rebuilt, think it may have been the subject of a beer commercial in the early 90's? "they said you'd never make it..."???
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The Receiver is not a fan:
MOTORSPORT millionaire Craig Gore "is not putting his money where his mouth is", the receiver of three of his failed property development companies says. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...84-664,00.html |
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