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To be fair Bottas has done well to come back mentally after being at a really low ebb at the end of 2018. 2019-20 showed what he could do when his confidence is high, but unfortunately it’s still not enough to beat Lewis.
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Firstly - it is true that with age, a decline in ability is to be expected. But - every driver will experience this at a different point. You use Vettel as an example, in that he is not as good as he once was. Vettel is currently 33yrs old, whereas Hamilton is 36. On paper, it appears that Vettel may have dropped from his peak around 2018 - when he was younger than Bottas is now. In summary - Bottas is too close to Hamilton in age for it to be certain that he will one day be able to outperform him. |
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Bottas' performances seem to lift just prior to signing a new contract and then drop off once he has a contract in his pocket. May be mistaken here, but it is certainly my impression, and it is a attribute I loath in professional sportsmen. Russell must have come as a huge surprise to Bottas, and imo should clearly have the Mercedes drive and hang the consequences, it would also give Lewis the opportunity to prove his greatness. (Good for the fans anyway.) |
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I can remember Rosberg saying that he knew how to beat Hamilton and he did and it is reasonable to assume he did not think he either could either do it again or it was worth the supreme effort involved. Around that time the Rosbergs became parents and that would have been a factor as well.
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Yeah, Rosberg did it right for him. He accomplished what he set out to, and instead of sacrificing family for that grind again, he retired and enjoys his family.
I think it matters who the number one on the team is. If it's max, I want no part of being on that team. If its moving to mercedes now, I would. Reason being age. If Russell goes to mercedes next year, he can be number 2 for a few years and wait for hamilton to retire. Then he inherits the number 1 seat. If you go to red bull now, max is the focal point basically your entire career. On the flip side, if you're in your 30s, and haven't had a chance in a top team, or only have a small window left to get that opportunity again, you take the number 2 role, like perez or Ricciardo now. Back when ricciardi was at redbull, he was too young to sit behind max as a number 2, so had to try being a number 1 on a lesser team. Bottas was still too young when his opportunity came, as was hamilton, for it to work for him in a big team at that time. Had hamilton been a few years older, or he a few years younger and his opportunity come up a few years later so the age gap was more significant, he would be in a great spot. As it is, when Hamilton retires, bottas will be too old, and have too long a track record as a number 2 to get top billing. For someone like russell, if he had a choice of top driver for mclaren or number 2 for Mercedes, take the mercedes ride, and prove yourself worthy of being built around when you're in your mid to late 20s and hamilton retires. It's why sainz is in a lose lose spot with leclerc. They're too close in age. If ferrari ever gets competitive again, you're either ruffling feathers taking the fight to the golden child leclerc, or you're stuck as number 2, with no chance of a payoff at the end of the run of the number 1. |
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Indeed, Mike. It certainly paid for new bandages and more vodka.
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I think the big issue over in the UK is because Nico's rival was Hamilton and he did have bad luck
Nico did pretty much the same as his Dad, who quit when he was still at the peak of his powers after one world title, however I think Keke was acknowledged as perhaps the fastest guy out there for a few years, Nico maybe never had that moniker. But I respect him enormously, he basically gave up his entire family, life, existence to beat Lewis, a man with more talent, but he did it and then realised he had NO desire to do it again, mature, responsible, thoughtful and gets for me far more recognition for doing so than trolling around for years on end winning endless titles in the best car and being a petulant little brat with a chip on his shoulder and a very odd lifestyle. |
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I don't think Ferrari are as biased as you think. Ferrari were happy to have Massa and Raikkonen as equal number ones for example.
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Petulant little brat. Other than you can use that to describe pretty much any F1 driver if you so desire I really don’t see it.
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The brat trolled round nicely today but was beaten on this occasion. He must have forgotten to have chips for lunch......
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And another brat won so presumably had chips.
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