BTCC Round Five, Croft 25-26 Jun, Races 13,14&15 - Page 2

**BertMk2** · 16 Jun 2022, 13:30 (Ref:4115893)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Lloyd was discussing his future day before yesterday with Excelr8. Or rather his lack of a future if my info is correct.

When he was interviewed on the grid before the first race at Oulton he said he was looking to try and get more sponsors onboard - so presumably was still short of the full season budget at that point. Add in the damage from Oulton and it's probably game over isn't it?

Evantra · 16 Jun 2022, 14:02 (Ref:4115899)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

When he was interviewed on the grid before the first race at Oulton he said he was looking to try and get more sponsors onboard - so presumably was still short of the full season budget at that point. Add in the damage from Oulton and it's probably game over isn't it?

Think I saw somewhere, maybe it was from his YouTube video he put up, it was around £60k worth of damage?

redshoes · 16 Jun 2022, 16:38 (Ref:4115915)

From Autosport today, Lloyd and Turkington doubtful for Croft.

Lloyd : "The damage to the car is even worse than what we expected, it's a serious incident and a huge impact to my budget. The goal is to be at Croft but it’s not a good situation financially at the moment."
That's not withstanding his own damage - "bruised lungs, bruised ribs, sore around the limbs and swollen knackers!"

Turkington's car has gone to Willie Poole to be assessed/fixed and is more damaged than WSR first thought. Steering rack was pushed into the engine so they are looking at an engine rebuild as well.

According to Autosport "The car Turkington is racing this year is a brand-new one following the sale of his 2019 title winner, so there is no spare available with the next round at Croft". I'm fairly sure buyer of that car was a certain Northern Ireland based collector, so it may not be totally unavailable should all else fail.

thetool · 16 Jun 2022, 16:42 (Ref:4115916)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

I'm fairly sure buyer of that car was a certain Northern Ireland based collector, so it may not be totally unavailable should all else fail.

Otherwise I imagine Jelley will be arranging some "personal reasons" that require him to sit out Croft.

porsche962fan · 16 Jun 2022, 18:15 (Ref:4115934)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

According to Autosport "The car Turkington is racing this year is a brand-new one following the sale of his 2019 title winner, so there is no spare available with the next round at Croft". I'm fairly sure buyer of that car was a certain Northern Ireland based collector, so it may not be totally unavailable should all else fail.

doubtful, it would need the hybrid installed and some other updates

there would be another option , as mentioned Jelley to sit out a round OR maybe something can be arranged with Cicely for Gamble to sit out a round

crmalcolm · 16 Jun 2022, 18:28 (Ref:4115938)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

doubtful, it would need the hybrid installed and some other updates

2 of the 3 WSR cars this season are 2019 builds, so updating the 3rd from a 2019 build would not be difficult for them.

Availability of the chassis is the factor here.

billy bleach · 16 Jun 2022, 18:36 (Ref:4115942)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

doubtful, it would need the hybrid installed and some other updates

there would be another option , as mentioned Jelley to sit out a round OR maybe something can be arranged with Cicely for Gamble to sit out a round

Is that allowed? I thought missing a round was permitted during Covid only

redshoes · 16 Jun 2022, 19:00 (Ref:4115947)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

Is that allowed? I thought missing a round was permitted during Covid only

It's permitted if TOCA/Gow agree that it's force majeure.

just a guess here,
"my car is still being repaired" = yes
"my car is being used by someone else" = ahh, maybe no

sceptic · 16 Jun 2022, 19:04 (Ref:4115949)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

TV Coverage now confirmed:

Sat 25 Jun - itv.com/btcc/qualifying-live - from 3:15pm
Sun 26 Jun - ITV4 - 11:30am-6:35pm

This was confirmed at the end of the Oulton Park programme.

sceptic · 16 Jun 2022, 19:13 (Ref:4115950)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

doubtful, it would need the hybrid installed and some other updates

there would be another option , as mentioned Jelley to sit out a round OR maybe something can be arranged with Cicely for Gamble to sit out a round

I don't think the championship administrator would allow that, unless it were a permanent change.

There will be one different driver on the grid at Croft though.

crmalcolm · 16 Jun 2022, 19:24 (Ref:4115953)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

This was confirmed at the end of the Oulton Park programme.

Yes, you're right. The planned broadcast was trailed at the end of the Oulton Park coverage.

I merely updated this thread after ITV published their official PI and confirmation - which will mean EPG's etc. can now schedule.

Evantra · 16 Jun 2022, 20:37 (Ref:4115972)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

There will be one different driver on the grid at Croft though.

Hmm... Parfitt had enough?

Alfisti · 16 Jun 2022, 21:20 (Ref:4115975)

Someone may have fallen on #HARD times I suspect. No doubt someone here will be able to produce a statistical analysis of how far into each season we've got before the merry go round has turned a little...

thetool · 16 Jun 2022, 21:23 (Ref:4115976)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

It's permitted if TOCA/Gow agree that it's force majeure.

just a guess here,
"my car is still being repaired" = yes
"my car is being used by someone else" = ahh, maybe no

I don't think that would actually matter. As far as I understand the teams are at liberty to allocate chassis to whichever driver they please, the same driver doesn't have to keep the same one each meeting.

I believe the issue would be the team fielding two entries instead of three, not whose car was missing. Happy to be corrected it I'm wrong.

sceptic · 17 Jun 2022, 09:20 (Ref:4116035)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Hmm... Parfitt had enough?

I don't think he's had enough, just that he will earn a lot more money playing a concert that Saturday night.

Craner Curves · 17 Jun 2022, 17:53 (Ref:4116135)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

I don't think he's had enough, just that he will earn a lot more money playing a concert that Saturday night.

A repeat of his back injury from Croft last year?

redshoes · 17 Jun 2022, 20:42 (Ref:4116152)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

A repeat of his back injury from Croft last year?

Would it matter if he didn't turn up for a week. For his results so far this he's barely turned up all year

S griffin · 18 Jun 2022, 06:48 (Ref:4116185)

Is there any substance to this Parfett speculation?

3marinadrive · 18 Jun 2022, 09:38 (Ref:4116206)

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Originally Posted by thetool

Otherwise I imagine Jelley will be arranging some "personal reasons" that require him to sit out Croft.

Why not Hill? According to some 'experts' on here he isn't a patch on Turkington so surely he should be a good little boy and step aside? Why would Jelley step aside anyway!? If it was going into the final round of the championship, with Colin right in the title fight and Stephen out of it, then maybe, but even then the fact that Stephen is paying a significant budget to be in that seat...WSR are one of the best teams on the grid - they will find a solution and all three cars will be on the grid at Croft prepared to the same high standard as ever.

billy bleach · 18 Jun 2022, 11:55 (Ref:4116211)

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Originally Posted by 3marinadrive

Why not Hill? According to some 'experts' on here he isn't a patch on Turkington so surely he should be a good little boy and step aside? Why would Jelley step aside anyway!? If it was going into the final round of the championship, with Colin right in the title fight and Stephen out of it, then maybe, but even then the fact that Stephen is paying a significant budget to be in that seat...WSR are one of the best teams on the grid - they will find a solution and all three cars will be on the grid at Croft prepared to the same high standard as ever.

The solution will be either repair or reshell

S griffin · 20 Jun 2022, 09:00 (Ref:4116399)

I do wonder if they will be able to get the car ready in time

billy bleach · 20 Jun 2022, 10:26 (Ref:4116412)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

I do wonder if they will be able to get the car ready in time

Ten days to do a reshell- assuming they have a prepped painted shell on stand by should be pretty easy

crmalcolm · 20 Jun 2022, 10:39 (Ref:4116414)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

I do wonder if they will be able to get the car ready in time

Short answer, yes they are able to.

sceptic · 20 Jun 2022, 16:31 (Ref:4116444)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Short answer, yes they are able to.

Turkington's yes.
I don't think there's any doubt in his participation this weekend.

Lloyd may need to be cleared by a doctor.

There's a substitute driver for Parfitt, who is busy elsewhere. And I'm told another driver will miss Croft too.

crmalcolm · 20 Jun 2022, 16:43 (Ref:4116445)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Turkington's yes.
I don't think there's any doubt in his participation this weekend.

Lloyd may need to be cleared by a doctor.

There's a substitute driver for Parfitt, who is busy elsewhere. And I'm told another driver will miss Croft too.

I think S Griffin's query was related to WSR only? Agreed - not in doubt at all regarding Turkington's participation.

Lloyd (I think) is more about budget than medical clearance I am hearing - unless the financials have been resolved now?

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