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In my opinion the circuit seems to suit the Toyota a bit more then it suits the Audi. So I hope this might be the first race win for Toyota and if that happens it probably will be a very memorable race... Well at least to me.
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Yeah, I think so also. Don't see how this won't be a good race. Even with the altitude robbing some power from Toyota, they'll make up for it on those turns with their hybrid release.
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Looking forward to this as always. I'm excited to see what Toyota can do once again. Will also be interesting to get a look at Di Grassi over some stints and check out his relative pace.
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Is Audi tv covering the whole WEC season? Because like Silverstone I'll be using that to watch the race if so. Had no problems at all and they used RLM commentary so very happy.
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Well if Toyota is not making any power maybe the fuel economy picks up? Anyway if Toyota has the fuel economy of Silverstone it does not matter how fast the hybrid makes them. They cannot win. Audi could save as much as 1.5 pitstops worth of fuel. Have a car that's just as quick over a single lap.
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I don't agree with that. Audi would have had to make at least a splash of fuel for the E-Tron were it not for the 2nd safety car. Toyota needed a full fuel stop, but with the time made up on track, they would have been VERY close at the end of the race. What bothers me is that it takes a shorter amount of time for Audi to refuel their car! It's supposed to be even amount of time. Yet it took longer for the Toyota to fill it's tank than Audi. That's something they should address IMO.
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7 Sep 2012, 22:34 (Ref:3132694) | #32 | |
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If the engines produce less power in Sao Paulo, they will use less fuel. Consequently, the R18 ultra and e-tron will have no trouble finishing 6 hours with 6 pit stops, whereas Toyota will also have to do at least one extra stop.
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Excuse my total ignorance, but since the lower amount of power is the result of thinner air on high altitude, aren't the N/A engines just less efficient on the highlands? Therefore, don't they make less power (compared to levels achievable on lowlands) out of the same amount of fuel?
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Toyota will have to run adjusted engine maps because logically you cannot dump the same amounts of fuel into the cylinders when the air is thinner. So I expect the fuel economy to pick up compared to Silverstone. They'll rely heavily on the hybrid power which is exactly the way toyota wants it. I'm convinced that if Toyota wrote the rule books they would have a super small 4 cylinder petrol engine and a huge hybrid system.
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That makes sense (even to me). Unfortunately, with the assumption that they'll have 10% less power, even the 10% better fuel economy won't put them on Audi's level. Toyota is not yet able to win based purely on speed/strategy - they'll need some bad luck to hit their opponent.
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Thanks Andy as always for taking the time and effort with the spotter guide. Keep up the great work
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12 Sep 2012, 10:06 (Ref:3134703) | #46 | ||
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Just like I thought- Nakajima will miss Brazil due to SuperGT. Too close together I assume... http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/sa...toyota-racing/
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That is a bit strange because the SuperGT was last weekend. Normally he should have plenty of time to travel to Sao Paulo.
The drivers from Europe left to Brazil only this week. For instance, Alex Wurz toke his flight yesterday: Quote:
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Maybe it's not the race, but some PR stuff, or testing even, that keeps him busy in Japan.
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As always, thanks for the spotters guide.
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To be fair, Alex nor Nico have raced back to back to back weekends, this would be Nakajima's situation.
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