Any tracks with left turn as 1st corner?

[MrTTraces]

at what point does a kink stop being classed as a kink and become a corner?

[Fox89]

Originally Posted by MrTTraces

at what point does a kink stop being classed as a kink and become a corner?

Perhaps when there's a braking zone or when downforce is required to stay at full throttle, something like that.

[MrTTraces]

Originally Posted by Fox89

Perhaps when there's a braking zone or when downforce is required to stay at full throttle, something like that.

That makes sense I suppose

[White flag man]

Originally Posted by MrTTraces

at what point does a kink stop being classed as a kink and become a corner?

The Kinks were much better than Amen Corner

[gab73]

Adelaide ran clockwise which went left in the 1st corner.

[Splatz the Cow]

Spa and Laguna Seca and Mid-Ohio

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Splatz the Cow

Spa and Laguna Seca and Mid-Ohio

Spa's a right hander, the first corner is La Source.

[willb]

Zolder 1981, Imola 1981, Las Vegas 1981, Detroit 1982

[tony griffiths]

Willow Springs, Laguna Seca California

[tony griffiths]

Long Beach !

[tony griffiths]

didnt the original Croft ?

[Quintin03]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Spa's a right hander, the first corner is La Source.

Depends which start is used. The other starting line is at the La Source-Eau Rouge straight. This is actualy the classic starting position.
Mid Ohio is usualy started from the back straight which ends in a righthander.

[Quintin03]

Originally Posted by willb

Zolder 1981, Imola 1981, Las Vegas 1981, Detroit 1982

Zolder and Imola have always had left corners for first corners anyways.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Quintin03

Depends which start is used. The other starting line is at the La Source-Eau Rouge straight. This is actualy the classic starting position.

That's a 50/50 for Spa.

[NaBUru38]

Montreal of course counts.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by tony griffiths

Long Beach !

Toyota GP today. Won't be the same though, with those Dallaras but hopefully another win from Will Power.

[Bleu]

Originally Posted by Fox89

Perhaps when there's a braking zone or when downforce is required to stay at full throttle, something like that.

If you compare track maps on F1.com it doesn't really make sense everywhere. Just look at turns 21-22-23-24 at Valencia for example and compare that to Montreal. The place where Kubica crashed isn't a numbered corner (turn 9 is left-hander of the previous chicane and turn 10 is the hairpin)

In fact, the kink in Montreal is enough to put pole position on the left. The last corner is left-hander as is first "real" corner which would usually mean pole on the right side.

Other current F1 circuits where there is different directions for first and last corner.

- Sepang
- Shanghai
- Valencia
- Spa
- Abu Dhabi

[NaBUru38]

People can't count turns. The backstraight's hairpin in Shanghai is counted as two corners where it shouldn't and the ridiculous chicane right-hander in Singapore is coutner as three corners although drivers almost don't turn left.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

People can't count turns. The backstraight's hairpin in Shanghai is counted as two corners where it shouldn't and the ridiculous chicane right-hander in Singapore is coutner as three corners although drivers almost don't turn left.

All this stuff about what is a turn and isn't a turn is driving me round the bend.

[Matt Hunter]

Has anyone said Sebring yet?
Also Imola (probably already mentioned), Oschersleben, Lauzitzring and Norisring

[Speed-freak]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

All this stuff about what is a turn and isn't a turn is driving me round the bend.

Ahh bit is it "round the bend"?
It could be driving you round the kink, or round the sweeping left, or the hairpin, most folk on here can't seem to make up their mind......

[The SpeCTator]

Taupo, New Zealand

[dyewat808]

Originally Posted by Speed-freak

Ahh bit is it "round the bend"?
It could be driving you round the kink, or round the sweeping left, or the hairpin, most folk on here can't seem to make up their mind......

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Speed-freak

Ahh bit is it "round the bend"?
It could be driving you round the kink, or round the sweeping left, or the hairpin, most folk on here can't seem to make up their mind......

That's right out of left field.

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by Marbot

Water going down the plughole in different directions in opposite hemispheres is something of an urban myth. It does have an effect on larger bodies of water, just not sinks and baths.

ever been to the southern hemisphere lol sadly for you your urban myth is true for toilets, baths and sinks. I have lived in both as I am sure have many other people.

as for left handed first corners in current season F1 tracks, I can think of Singapore, Istanbul, Interlagos, Montreal off the top of my head anyway.