Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One
Reload this Page Ralf's hearing RESULT!
Register Gallery FAQ Calendar

Home
« Previous Thread | Formula One | Next Thread »
Reply
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 20 Aug 2003, 15:03 (Ref:693354)   #26
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame


At least gets double attention !
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 15:20 (Ref:693375)   #27
Peter Mallett
The Honourable Mallett
20KPINAL
 
Peter Mallett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
England
Here and there
Posts: 37,573
Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally posted by AdamAshmore
I think it seems like an odd decision. If they thought he had done something wrong then the fine is pointless. However perhaps they are just making the punishment fit the crime. Ralf didn't do too much wrong, so he gets a minor penalty. ???????
Minor penalty? That's a months sal.........oops!
Peter Mallett is offline  
__________________
I've decided to stop reaching out to people. I'm just going to contact them instead.
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 15:26 (Ref:693384)   #28
ralf fan
Forum Host
Veteran
 
ralf fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
United Nations
Apartment No.203
Posts: 6,529
ralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
i think a fine seems fair rather than relegating him ten places
ralf fan is offline  
__________________
A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off."
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 15:26 (Ref:693386)   #29
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 44,018
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
and with Ralf's rumoured pay cut he is practically skint
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Brum brum
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 17:00 (Ref:693477)   #30
krt917
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location:
Fleet
Posts: 1,814
krt917 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridkrt917 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Some sanity at last. I'm all for improving driving standards, but picking on (the wrong) Schuey for that was silly and the punishment was far too severe. A fine (quite a big one by FIa standards on individual driers isn't it?) seems more fitting for this particular faux pas.

Roll on the rest of the season.
krt917 is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 17:20 (Ref:693497)   #31
waspy
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 17
waspy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Why is Kimi being investigated by the German GP stewards?

Whats he done wrong - tried to overtake someone!!!

The worlds going mad.
waspy is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 17:26 (Ref:693507)   #32
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 44,018
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
I agree with that Waspy.
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Brum brum
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 17:27 (Ref:693508)   #33
bacon sandwich
Racer
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
United Kingdom
basildon essex
Posts: 327
bacon sandwich should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
This didn't appear to be more than a racing incident to me - there was no deliberate act that I was aware of - so I'm glad he hasn't been penalised 10 places - there have been far worse things happen in the past that have gone totally unpunished - consistency not there as usual.
Do you think the team will pay the fine or make the driver pay it ?
Bearing in mind it is Frank and Patrick - I suppose it has to be the latter !
bacon sandwich is offline  
__________________
Only SMARTIES have the answer.....
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 17:48 (Ref:693531)   #34
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally posted by Peter Mallett
Minor penalty? That's a months sal.........oops!
Peter, can I be your workmate ??
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 18:01 (Ref:693548)   #35
Peter Mallett
The Honourable Mallett
20KPINAL
 
Peter Mallett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
England
Here and there
Posts: 37,573
Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Only if you get me a job in Rio.
Peter Mallett is offline  
__________________
I've decided to stop reaching out to people. I'm just going to contact them instead.
Quote
Old 20 Aug 2003, 19:18 (Ref:693627)   #36
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
I'll see what I can get... in the beach maybe ?
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 08:42 (Ref:694081)   #37
jetsetter
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Australia
Ipswich Qld Australia
Posts: 2,508
jetsetter should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I think it was a fair decision giving Ralf a fine rather than relegate him on the grid as there have been far worse incidents let go in previous years.
jetsetter is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 10:07 (Ref:694135)   #38
perminder
Racer
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
United Kingdom
in my house
Posts: 113
perminder should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Yeh thats about £31,000
perminder is offline  
__________________
You should have gone to Specsavers.
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 10:09 (Ref:694138)   #39
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 44,018
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally posted by jetsetter
...as there have been far worse incidents let go in previous years.
I agree with this, but I also think that just because someone got away with something worse doesn't mean that another incident shouldn't receive a penalty. This is just a general statement rather than anything specific towards Ralf.
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Brum brum
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 10:15 (Ref:694141)   #40
chrisgr31
Racer
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 143
chrisgr31 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by waspy
Why is Kimi being investigated by the German GP stewards?

Whats he done wrong - tried to overtake someone!!!

The worlds going mad.
I read about this yesterday and haven't been back to refresh my memory. However the report I read at www.grandprix.com implied that Kimi had steered towards the right, where Rubens and Ralf were and taken no action to avoid the accident, and it was possible that there was room to go to the left. It was further alledged I think, that McLaren were reluctant for Kimi to appear at the hearing the implication being they were worried abiout the evidence.

Presumably it may be reasonable to draw the conclusion that Mimi was coming from behind, he would be looking forward and therefore was better placed to see what the drivers in fornt of hm were doing.
chrisgr31 is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 10:18 (Ref:694144)   #41
ASCII Man
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
ASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridASCII Man should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
When Ralf (rather slowly) swerved to the left, Kimi was already alongside Rubens!
ASCII Man is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 11:03 (Ref:694175)   #42
jetsetter
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Australia
Ipswich Qld Australia
Posts: 2,508
jetsetter should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by AdamAshmore
I agree with this, but I also think that just because someone got away with something worse doesn't mean that another incident shouldn't receive a penalty. This is just a general statement rather than anything specific towards Ralf.
I'm in no way saying that because someone got away with something noone else should ever be punished, the point i was attempting to make is that i don't believe they should pull this form of punishment out when they feel like it. I'd rather them get the teams & drivers together at the start of the year & say this is the punishment you'll receive if found guilty of dangerous driving & stick to that punishment regardless whether it's Michael Schumacher or Jos Verstappen, that way noone will have anything to whinge about.
jetsetter is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 11:14 (Ref:694185)   #43
garagegirl
Racer
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location:
somwhere
Posts: 406
garagegirl should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by perminder
Yeh thats about £31,000
that's alot of money!! i suppose in some respects ralf is lucky just to have got a fine, other penalties could have completly spoiled any chances of winning the championship, like if he'd been banned from a race or something daft like that.
garagegirl is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 11:57 (Ref:694269)   #44
twig
Veteran
 
twig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location:
Wahroonga, Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,135
twig should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
It seems a little stupid to me that Ralf wasnt penalised (not that) but the fact that Kimi has come under fire now.

How they can find Kimi at fault by saying that he could have used up the grass on the side of the side of the track, whilst they dont penalise Ralf for not using up the TRACK!

although i doubt Kimi will lose the 10 positions, it just seems odd

EDIT: And yes, as Jetsetter said, the teams shouldnt be able to get their lawyers into court, and should just take the punishment, as it is given.
Last edited by twig; 21 Aug 2003 at 11:59.
twig is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 12:18 (Ref:694311)   #45
RWC
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location:
Qld.-australia
Posts: 2,083
RWC should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I disagree-if the fia can't make a proper decision then it needs to be fought.
RWC is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 12:29 (Ref:694335)   #46
Mattracer
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,370
Mattracer should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Ralf's back in the game.
Mattracer is offline  
__________________
Holden- How One Legendary Driver Earned Nine

Permanent circuits- the life blood of motorsport
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 12:55 (Ref:694375)   #47
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally posted by RWC
I disagree-if the fia can't make a proper decision then it needs to be fought.
Sadly, they can't make proper decisions...
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 13:02 (Ref:694385)   #48
Speed
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Panama
Panama, Rep. of Panama
Posts: 2,245
Speed should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
So he is considered guilty then...
Speed is offline  
__________________
"ignorantia legis neminem excusat"
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 13:42 (Ref:694423)   #49
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
...for racing.
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 21 Aug 2003, 13:44 (Ref:694426)   #50
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 44,018
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally posted by jetsetter
I'd rather them get the teams & drivers together at the start of the year & say this is the punishment you'll receive if found guilty of dangerous driving & stick to that punishment...
I totally agree with this.

In part F1 is lacking here because there are (still) different people involved in each race. To a certain extent it has been decided, but perhaps not well enough, or thought into some of the detail is missing. Maybe a more concerted effort for next year that learns from some of the things that happen in the past? For now we are stuck with what we have got.
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Brum brum
Quote
Home
« Previous Thread | Formula One | Next Thread »
Reply
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Home
« Previous Thread | Formula One | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CRB Button hearing T0MAT01 Formula One 5 22 Sep 2004 16:05
Skaife's hearing result ford boy Australasian Touring Cars. 69 23 Dec 2003 23:57
Ralf's hearing to be Televised (Ralf fined) perminder Formula One 27 20 Aug 2003 14:00
How will the appeal hearing go? MichaelH Formula One 41 11 Apr 2003 11:14
Inquest Hearing Steve Tarrant Marshals Forum 12 7 Feb 2003 18:00


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:24.

TenTenths Motorsport - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.