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What measures did you use to reach your conclusion that 2 litre engines are optimal and the most appropriate engine capacity?
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26 May 2021, 11:23 (Ref:4053434) | #30 | ||
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So we are all v8 fans because we like the sound of them?
I mean they do sound better than 4cyl Dysons running around. Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk |
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Take these V8 DTM cars for example:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTTHuKp1hMw If you weren't told it was a V8, you might think it's a 4-popper. They have a lovely inline-four like flatplane rasp to them, especially since there is no crossover in the exhaust joining the banks. Conversely, take this Yamaha R1 inline-four with a crossplane crankshaft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMMRxHPYc2o It could easily masquerade as a V4 or American crossplane V8 by ears alone. Therefore your point is fundamentally erroneous IMO. Just as there is very little in tone between an inline-six and V12, between a inline-five and a V10, there is also very little difference in tone between an inline-four and V8 of the equivalent crankshaft configuration. If you like the sound of a Ferrari 308 V8, why wouldn't you also like the sound of an Alfa Romeo GTV 4-cylinder? They really do not sound all that different! Alfa Romeo 4-popper @ Targa Tasmania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Q9zVs4YSg Ferrari 8-popper @ Targa Tasmania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-sjhVTV3AY Notice how similar they sound, as you would expect given how similar V8 and four-cylinder engines are. They both have their carbs barking away too! Given this, I don't understand how one could like the sound of a NA V8 but not the sound of a NA inline-four -- it would be as silly as saying as you love the sound of a V12 but think inline-sixes sound like garbage. Conversely, turbocharged four-cylinders do tend to sound pretty bad (especially low-revving TCR), but the twin-turbocharged McLaren and Ferrari V8 GT3 cars also sound bad too... A turbocharged low-revving engine doesn't magically sound great just because it's a V8. Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 26 May 2021 at 14:36. |
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Think he was referring to the sound of an NA V8 - turbocharged V8s not under discussion at all - sorry. |
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Like I said the 180-degree crank throw Ferrari 308 V8 and Alfa Romeo GTV twin-cam sound far more similar than they do different. Just as the Yamaha R1 4-cylinder with the 90-degree crank throws sounds very similar to a S5000, at least in the lower half of the Yamaha's rev-range. So it's illogical to like the sound of V8s but dislike inline-fours, just as it's illogical to like the sound of V12s but dislike the sound of inline-sixes. On that topic, the TCM is definitely worse off for the lack of the wailing inline-six Chrysler -- such a shame. Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 26 May 2021 at 22:44. |
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What has all this dribble about DTM, 2 litres and other irrelevent crap got to do with the topic.... Touring Car Masters Imploding?
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It may have helped avoid the category becoming (what some may argue to be) a pastiche filled with LS-powered Torana sports sedans with dodgy-looking fibreglass over fenders. If Mr. Showers must source a priceless period-correct Cosworth engine for his Escort, why can Torana runners slap a LS in their rig!? Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 30 May 2021 at 04:34. |
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That GTA is hot as ****. But it was a class runner in its day so it shouldn't expect to be an outright contender now.
But the front running cars have become ridiculous and they need to be reeled in, but without them there is not much of a show. So TCM has built themselves a house of cards. |
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Similar things have happened in other class-racing series. Chris Hodgetts famously won the BTCC in a Corolla (I think it was) against minimal opposition in his class, whilst the outright contenders took points from each other scrapping all the way through. |
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At least in the ATCC there were also some points awarded for outright placings in addition to the class points. |
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