Safety of cars - Page 2

Ian-S · 3 Sep 2001, 20:56 (Ref:140804)

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Originally posted by Hans.ca
Replace gravel traps with pavement, real grippy asphalt, so that the driver has a chance to use his brakes

That wouldn't have helped Burti as he probably didn't have any after he'd hit Irvine.

paulzinho · 3 Sep 2001, 21:00 (Ref:140807)

His lack of front wing also meant he had no downforce and as you said no brakes because the right front was no longer attached

**Bononi** · 3 Sep 2001, 22:50 (Ref:140866)

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Originally posted by paulzinho
The tyres spreading helped to absorb the impact but the danger was the way they came back into the cockpit. This may need to be looked at. But don't change the track.

But how to prevent this, if you tie them tight enough, there will be any use, as they will act like a solid barrier...

Hans.ca · 4 Sep 2001, 13:40 (Ref:141155)

Re. brakes functioning after loosing one wheel.
Does the modern F1 car no longer have a double master cylinder and split brakes? In other words it used to be mandatory that the cars had 2 master cylinders and the braking system was split in two so at least you had some brakes if you lost a wheel.
I understand that loosing the front wing will take all the downforce away, but a little braking is better then no braking at all. At no time did the rears lock up during Burtis travell into the barrier. Also on asphalt the driver might just be able to change the attitude of the car to lessen the impact

paulzinho · 4 Sep 2001, 20:52 (Ref:141362)

To be honest I don't know.

All I was saying was that the front wheel being loose meant that the brakes there had no means of activating because the wheel was not in contact with the ground.

mac · 5 Sep 2001, 00:37 (Ref:141506)

Even if Burti could have braked, the fact that the front part of his car was in the air would have meant he couldn't slow.

mjolnir · 6 Sep 2001, 06:11 (Ref:142279)

aw, ****. now TGF has spoken out about safety. I'm all for safety of the drivers, but with "Skinny Lizzy", "grooved tyres", etc...

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Next week's Italian GP will not be at Monza, but will now be relocated to the nearby fairground at the bumper cars circuit...

**Bononi** · 6 Sep 2001, 12:41 (Ref:142427)

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SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Next week's Italian GP will not be at Monza, but will now be relocated to the nearby fairground at the bumper cars circuit...

mjolnir · 6 Sep 2001, 13:19 (Ref:142447)

and u can imagine Muddy Talker:

"... and GO GO GO. They all make fantastic starts (since bumper cars are,like, either on or off). And Schumacher swerves to the right in front of Montoya (but really, it doesn't matter, because they're all travelling the same speed anywayz)..."

Ralf's Girl · 6 Sep 2001, 21:12 (Ref:142689)

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Originally posted by mjolnir
"... and GO GO GO. They all make fantastic starts (since bumper cars are,like, either on or off). And Schumacher swerves to the right in front of Montoya (but really, it doesn't matter, because they're all travelling the same speed anywayz)..."

Alan Jones · 6 Sep 2001, 23:59 (Ref:142815)

I was thinking about water as well, the downside would have to be ensuring the driver won't drown if he was to land upside down and the difficulty in retrieving the cars after the accident. HMMMMMmmnnnnnn

snakepit27 · 7 Sep 2001, 22:21 (Ref:143408)

Quote:

Originally posted by mjolnir
and u can imagine Muddy Talker:

"... and GO GO GO. They all make fantastic starts (since bumper cars are,like, either on or off). And Schumacher swerves to the right in front of Montoya (but really, it doesn't matter, because they're all travelling the same speed anywayz)..."

rotfl

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