IMSA IMSA 2024

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Plenty of demand for next year: https://racer.com/2023/07/12/imsa-fi...rowth-in-2024/

With demand apparently being bigger than supply, adding an enduro round might help with the entry selections.

I guess by elimination of those unwilling to fund an extra enduro round? Daytona and Petit are already over subscribed without any additional cars.

Have to figure they need to find space for:
2 maybe 3 GTP-Lamborghini post Daytona, AA car unless MSR gets dropped and one extra possible for enduros
2-5 LMP2s given the WEC teams and LMP3s moving up. I would guess there will be an LMP3 like max number allowed
3 GTD-Pros with Vette and 2 Mustangs
GTD is who knows but I wouldn't guess any drops

But with the current field hitting max, or at least the "regs" maximum, adding any cars will be tough choices. Adding a round won't really fix pit stall numbers.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

I think these ideas should get implemented.

1. Long Beach GTP and GTD (Pro) only
-Bring back the all star race feel that DPI/GTLM only had. Loved this format
2. Laguna Seca split races GTP/LMP2 in one, All GTD (full) in the rest
-3 all GT races on the sked...I hope? Laguna had splits before. Between Prototype Pro and GTLM in one race, LMPC and GTD (am) in the other. I think this time they should just go with a Prototype race and a GT race.
3. CTMP is probably GTD and GTD (full) only
-logically since they are the ones left after P3 is gone


I do also think the GTD Pro vs GTD Am criteria needs a relook. I suggest Gold/Silver has to be GTD Pro now. GTD Am can be Gold/Bronze or Silver/Silver or Silver/Bronze or Bronze/Bronze

Long Beach will likely go back to that, wouldn't hurt especially as they get very limited space around Indy pits

Split race at Laguna might be a tough sell, they also run a decent number of support events so something would have to go.

Mosport without GTP would be tough too, but going by modern IMSA/ALMS history over 80s split events.

I don't think you can force the Silvers to Pro, and the Gold drivers are the perk the committed Silvers get in the car for training. And there is a Bronze driver benefit for IMSA entry to LM. How that works with very limited GT3 cars will be interesting, but I wouldn't be surprised to see LM only GT3s for Akin/Truman Cup and AsLMS GT be allowed with more cars at LM than WEC

[GT3_Fan]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Long Beach will likely go back to that, wouldn't hurt especially as they get very limited space around Indy pits

Split race at Laguna might be a tough sell, they also run a decent number of support events so something would have to go.

Mosport without GTP would be tough too, but going by modern IMSA/ALMS history over 80s split events.

I don't think you can force the Silvers to Pro, and the Gold drivers are the perk the committed Silvers get in the car for training. And there is a Bronze driver benefit for IMSA entry to LM. How that works with very limited GT3 cars will be interesting, but I wouldn't be surprised to see LM only GT3s for Akin/Truman Cup and AsLMS GT be allowed with more cars at LM than WEC

Ooh that was a typo...CTMP...GTP and GTD only.

[v8supes]

Do you think IMSA would change their rules to allow Risi to run a Ferrari LMH IF Ferrari wants to allow them?

[Adam43]

I forget the actual rule, what is it?

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by v8supes

Do you think IMSA would change their rules to allow Risi to run a Ferrari LMH IF Ferrari wants to allow them?

It sounds like Ferrari is only interested in AF Corse running them but what rule needs to change? They just need to bring the car to Windshear for testing

[joeb]

And we have the return of the Ligier LMP2 next season with Sean Creech stepping up from P3.

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/s...m-with-ligier/

No mention of drivers but maybe some of the current squad?

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by joeb

And we have the return of the Ligier LMP2 next season with Sean Creech stepping up from P3.

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/s...m-with-ligier/

No mention of drivers but maybe some of the current squad?

Bold move going the Ligier route

[seanyb505]

Ideally with just one team running it, IMSA will introduce bop into a spec class to bring it closer to the oreca spec.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Bold move going the Ligier route

Guessing they got a good price on it! Plus already running a Ligier P3 so there may be some familiarity with the company.

Originally Posted by seanyb505

Ideally with just one team running it, IMSA will introduce bop into a spec class to bring it closer to the oreca spec.

you better believe it!

[tomcug]

Another team interested in IMSA LMP2 switch:
https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/i...ort-next-year/

[broadrun96]

I guess if they ever get their wiring loom back they can enter

[tomcug]

MSR got to keep their cheatwin so I don't suppose this can a problem for Inter Europol

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by tomcug

MSR got to keep their cheatwin so I don't suppose this can a problem for Inter Europol

But IMSA didn't impound their air like ACO did with the loom supposedly

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Bold move going the Ligier route

They'll be swapping it for an Oreca before the halfway mark of the season.

[tomcug]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

But IMSA didn't impound their air like ACO did with the loom supposedly

No worries, they will get it back... with Le Mans DSQ included free of charge maybe

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

They'll be swapping it for an Oreca before the halfway mark of the season.

The few others that ran in IMSA weren't that far off the pace, nothing like LM and WEC running. Couple Dallaras and Ligier made appearances and weren't winners but weren't lapped

[seanyb505]

Are the orecas running less power than the last time the other chassis options were used? I wonder if the same spec will be applied to the engine in the ligier.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by seanyb505

Are the orecas running less power than the last time the other chassis options were used? I wonder if the same spec will be applied to the engine in the ligier.

Yes, and I would assume yes.

[tomcug]

Seems they will get it back:
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...ns-checks.html

[Adam43]

Covered here: https://tentenths.com/forum/showthre...58051&page=132

[tomcug]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Covered here: https://tentenths.com/forum/showthre...58051&page=132

Yes, yes, I know but that was mostly to let broadrun96 know that IEC will get their wiring loom back

[Adam43]

Yes, yes, I know but that was mostly to let people know that there was a place to discuss the actual topic.

[GT3_Fan]

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/a...or-2024-plans/

This article is packed with speculation on the state of GTD heading into 2024? Whose side are you on then?

AO Racing who wants GTD Am to become a bronze mandate or Paul Miller Racing who wants it Silver still? Honestly, I think the PMR isde made the better argument reading the article. Without saying it directly Mitchel Simmons of PMR I think was saying..if you cant' cut it then go run GT WC America, there is a place for bronze drivers there.

[Adam43]

Do we get to pick sides? Cool - that’s always good for sportscar racing