Silverstone redevelopment 2010 - Page 2

ascarracinguk · 1 Mar 2010, 13:20 (Ref:2642647)

DEFINE IRONY!

Silverstone for ever complaining about donington and blasting them when the track over the tunnel was unsafe, not level and flooded.....and now silverstone have exactly the same problem LOL!

**Woolley** · 1 Mar 2010, 13:34 (Ref:2642655)

Having said that, exactly the same occurred at the WHT last year with two cars off due to aquaplaning in about the same spot, so technically they've simply failed to improve it.

Chris Roden · 1 Mar 2010, 13:52 (Ref:2642667)

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Originally Posted by ascarracinguk

DEFINE IRONY!

Silverstone for ever complaining about donington and blasting them when the track over the tunnel was unsafe, not level and flooded.....and now silverstone have exactly the same problem LOL!

I think the difference is that the BRDC presumably have the wherewithal to sort it out, if they don't, a wet Grand Prix using the new layout will be carnage.

ascarracinguk · 1 Mar 2010, 14:34 (Ref:2642690)

lol agreed

having said that donington sorted it in the end......jus left the rest of the track a complete mess!!!

mickey29 · 1 Mar 2010, 15:41 (Ref:2642717)

Early days yet for a redevelopment that should be completed by May. (End of this month for the majority of the works)

Al Weyman · 1 Mar 2010, 19:12 (Ref:2642870)

The straight on the national never drained properly and is the only place I have actually stopped and pulled off during a race simply because i could hardly see a thing. Does anyone know if the National layout is actually changing and significantly enough toeffect lap times.

Quintin03 · 1 Mar 2010, 19:19 (Ref:2642873)

It looks like the National circuit could be extended using the current International circuit's link and the curve onto the National straight.

Al Weyman · 1 Mar 2010, 19:21 (Ref:2642875)

We are there for our 2nd race so I would really be interested to know.

chezza · 1 Mar 2010, 22:42 (Ref:2642984)

The national circuit itself has not altered. However it appears that cars are already entering Copse more quickly as the straight is so open now the perceived extra space is making the drivers think they can go more quickly.

Al Weyman · 1 Mar 2010, 23:44 (Ref:2643008)

Hopefully there is a bit more grip there too!

Greem · 2 Mar 2010, 09:49 (Ref:2643213)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

Having said that, exactly the same occurred at the WHT last year with two cars off due to aquaplaning in about the same spot, so technically they've simply failed to improve it.

Quite right too. I was on the Runway Crossing post that day and was recovering one Lola which had aquaplaned, spun and stalled without hitting anything when one of the other Lolas in the same session went for an excursion. As it passed us it aquaplaned, spun once (or more) and hit the buttress of the pedestrian bridge before going off into the trap beyond the bridges. I believe it was something of a mess afterwards.
That said, it was a ridiculously wet day. Driving on a normal road was difficult enough, driving a racing car in those conditions was near impossible at points...

Tim the Grey · 17 Mar 2010, 22:35 (Ref:2654562)

Silly Question Time...

What is the Commercial Event on 27th March? Nowt on sillystone web site, but HSCC state the circuit is CLOSED all day Saturday...

redshoes · 17 Mar 2010, 23:13 (Ref:2654583)

Found these on Flickr. Some recent aerial shots of the track changes - http://www.flickr.com/photos/4824603...111068/detail/

Not sure if it's just a damp track or fresh tarmac but looks like a large portion of National Straight has been re-surfaced. Huge gravel trap in place along the start straight. From a spectator point of view we've lost a lot of the Becketts infield.

Tim the Grey · 18 Mar 2010, 11:22 (Ref:2654787)

Also gone is one of my favourite 'punter' photo spots, just over the National Straight behind the marshalls post Becketts Inside. The bank's levelled, and I doubt Public Access will ever happen there again...

dyewat808 · 18 Mar 2010, 17:44 (Ref:2655004)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

Kind of destroys the point in having kerbs. Here's a radical idea, why not just have grass up to the edge of the circuit and make them use the black bit? If they don't, water it...

Lol

. Kerbs are a bit ridiculous now, especially the ones at the new circuits. Look at Bahrain - there is a corner there which has about a car-width of kerb on its outside!?!

What's wrong with just a tyre width? Cheaper, easier to build etc. And having flat kerbs also seems a little pointless, unless you have bikes there, in which case, fair enough.

Quintin03 · 18 Mar 2010, 19:33 (Ref:2655061)

this redevelopment was meant to make the track more suitable for bikes so there's your reason. I do agree on that kerbs shouldn't be wider than a tyre width. One foot to half a metre seems sufficient to me.

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 19 Mar 2010, 01:04 (Ref:2655278)

Is that a large tarmac run off at the end of the National Straight or dark coloured Gravel?

If it's the former... haven't they over done it as there doesn't appear to be a lot of gravel beyond to catch a straight-on burst tyre or brake/suspension failure type of accident that tarmac run-off won't necessarily stop from hitting the tyrewalls.

redshoes · 19 Mar 2010, 08:26 (Ref:2655394)

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Originally Posted by ScotsBrutesFan

Is that a large tarmac run off at the end of the National Straight or dark coloured Gravel?

Tarmac, I think it was originally done for the bikes. I had the same concerns as you. I've seen a lot of time where a car runs wide at the corner and either gets stuck in the gravel trap causing a yellow/safety car, or continues and drags gravel back onto the track. The tarmac should help in that instance but won't help if a car goes straight on and into the tyre wall. I think the barrier has been pushed back slightly (wasn't it a walkway behind it?) but not by much.

Piglet · 19 Mar 2010, 08:49 (Ref:2655407)

I'm a bit out of touch on this, does anyeone know if the plan is to reinstate a pedestrian bridge to replace the one that has now gone from the middle of the pit lane location?

Happy Snapper · 20 Mar 2010, 07:39 (Ref:2656248)

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Originally Posted by Tim the Grey

Silly Question Time...

What is the Commercial Event on 27th March? Nowt on sillystone web site, but HSCC state the circuit is CLOSED all day Saturday...

We are there for F2 in mid April so I guess that will be the first race use of the the new GP circuit?

terence · 20 Mar 2010, 08:22 (Ref:2656252)

I had to go there on Thursday,surprised at how far they had got, what with the cold spell we had. The National will not change lap times on layout,perhaps a little quicker on some of the resurfaced stretch's though,some kerbing has been replaced by the 'Saw Tooth' design,hopefully that will discourage any 'advantage seekers' though!
The Stow circuit has had an 'S' bend laid out,new Race Control and Pit Garages are being finished off,looking impressive and garages are quite a good size,easily big enough for 4 cars in each.
As for 'Bridge',if anything is going to done,they had best get onto it asap because nothing has been done yet,IF it is going to be changed.

roys1 · 20 Mar 2010, 09:43 (Ref:2656280)

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Originally Posted by Happy Snapper

We are there for F2 in mid April so I guess that will be the first race use of the the new GP circuit?

oh please keep up.. Silverstone have announced the first meeting on Arena will be FIAGT.. The F2 should be on the Bridge circuit

mickey29 · 20 Mar 2010, 11:24 (Ref:2656322)

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Originally Posted by terence bower

As for 'Bridge',if anything is going to done,they had best get onto it asap because nothing has been done yet,IF it is going to be changed.

I didn't think there was any plans to change the original GP circuit beyond reprofiling Club and Abbey.

I thought Bridge was remaining as always.

Quintin03 · 20 Mar 2010, 11:40 (Ref:2656339)

Actualy the only corner on the current grand prix track that may get changed permanently is Club. All others have their older layout remaining.

Peat · 20 Mar 2010, 12:37 (Ref:2656369)

What about the exit of Chapel? I thought they had tightened that?

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