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I'm sure he'll score points but I don't think he'll be in the running for them every round but he'll pick up the dregs when they're available.
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He'll pick up points. Irrespective of budget, I expect Red Bull will be able to build a little on what Jaguar have achieved so far, but they're not going to suddenly appear in the first few rows of the grid.
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If last year Baumgartner scored a point, it's hard to believe that DC won't, honestly
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I think DC can get into double figures in races where other drivers and teams make mistakes. Monaco could be ideal for him, especially if the weather's bad.
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He should pick up a few points, he knows the tracks, has lots of experience, given the right circumstances, the wind in the right direction and a bit of luck etc.....
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Yes, well, that was Monaco - and he still scored points.
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Sure, he scored points, but my point is, he took 44 laps to get past, in one of the fastest cars on thr track. Monaco might be an ideal place to score points, but he has to...
None of the above a too likely for DC when driving a RBR. As for DC being one of the better overtakers, JPM is proberbly the best overtaker in F1, but when was the last time he (or Michael, Kimi, Jenson or Fernando) managed it at Monaco? Last edited by Mr V; 21 Jan 2005 at 18:00. |
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Could you imagine Tom Walkingshaws reaction to Bernoldi letting DC past? Furious! Not only would his driver have "let" another competitor through (someone he was racing, not being lapped by) and how much TV exposure would Arrows and it's sponsers lost out on? |
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For what it's worth Alex Wurz did exactly the same with Michael in 1998, and he was, rightly so, applauded for it, even though it did cause him to crash in the end.
What is the difference other than Wurz was running in on of the top 4 teams and Bernoldi wasn't? |
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Calling point scores is never easy and the new regs add in another variable but.....
On the face of it RBR could score 10 points or less overall, based on the fact that in the (likely) pecking order Toyota and RBR (nee Jaguar) will at the very least swap places and in all probablilty Toyota will mix it more with the factory teams. That leaves 12 'works' cars chasing 8 finishing places with the general increase in reliability as another factor, althought the 2nd weekend per engine brings in another variable. So, barring freak results I think RBR will score around 10 points, with say DC scoring the majority of them. |
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Why was he applauded for that .......... surely it is better to finish a F1 race rather than crash Mr V........ you were using Monaco 2001 as an example to show your opinion of DC's inability to overtake,if he had tried to overtake Bernoldi both of them would have been out of the race,that's why he didn't overtake on track,nothing to do with his perceived (by you) lack of overtaking ability. |
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I think as far as points go DC's 2005 wont be too different from 2004.
He seems more motivated this year. |
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DC has a lot to offer a second rate team. He is used to the big league and someone wanting to move up could do a lot worse.
Plus, he knows it is make or break time. And he isn't ready for the soup kitchen yet. |
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Furthermore, he's managed by one of the smartest guys available : M. Brundle
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I can see a DC seeing a chequered flag this season.
A surprise result in store,then all you scoffers will have too choke on humble pie. |
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A lot of the changes in regulations will play to DC's strength's this season,there will be a lot more to it than just having a "faster car".
Plus i think you cannot over-estimate the difference it will make to him being the No 1 driver at Red Bull rather than the No 2 at McLaren. We seem to go around in circles whenever DC is discussed,but from my point of view i think DC is greatly under-estimated ,and he will surprise a lot of people this season and score more points than the majority seem to think Last edited by Fantasy GP610; 22 Jan 2005 at 11:55. |
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