worst driver and worst car who have seen from1990-2001 - Page 2

Vitesse · 28 Jun 2001, 00:15 (Ref:110543)

Bononi:

Sir Jack Brabham is the father of David and Gary Brabham, who are, therefore, most definitely brothers. There is actually a third racing Brabham brother, Geoff, but he never made it to F1.

And the car in which Sir Jack won the WDC was a Brabham-Repco, not a Brabham-Honda, which was a Formula 2 car. To hear what the Brabham-Honda sounds like (a typical 1960s F2 "screamer") visit the Honda website:

http://www.honda.co.jp/hondafan/sound/automobiles.html

If your computer tells you that you need Japanese script software, don't bother downloading it, you won't actually need it ...

Radisichrox · 28 Jun 2001, 01:08 (Ref:110559)

quote: there 2 others Brabham :

David Brabham (mentioned by Radisichrox): who drove from 1990 to 1994;
having 30 gps with 26 starts with best finish being 10th, and best grid position 21th.

Gary Brabham : 2 gps but not pre-qualified.

I can't tell you the links between the 3, but I suspect Gary and David are brothers

They are brothers.

mac · 28 Jun 2001, 02:22 (Ref:110576)

Geoff Brabham actually finished second (I think) in the Indy 500 and drove in Indy cars for a while.

David Brabham, the worst? I don't think so. However the Simtek he drove would have to be the worst car. It was so bad everyone has forgotten it. As for the worst driver, I couldn't say. Norberto Fontana perhaps (sorry Mekola)?

PoweredByHonda · 28 Jun 2001, 03:02 (Ref:110585)

Quote:

Originally posted by Bononi

PoweredByHonda,

You are meaning Jack Brabham, who won 3 WDC (1959-1960-1966), and the only driver to win a championship in his own built car : Brabham-Honda (1966)
14 wins, 13 poles and 12 fastest laps, this aussie was a master.

there 2 others Brabham :

David Brabham (mentioned by Radisichrox): who drove from 1990 to 1994;
having 30 gps with 26 starts with best finish being 10th, and best grid position 21th.

Gary Brabham : 2 gps but not pre-qualified.

I can't tell you the links between the 3, but I suspect Gary and David are brothers.

Maybe Peter or Murph can help us with that.

Ahh yes, that's who I meant. Thanks for the clarification

I don't think David or Gary is worthy of the Brabham name.

mac · 28 Jun 2001, 03:20 (Ref:110588)

You know, I used to like Hondas.

TimD · 28 Jun 2001, 08:03 (Ref:110638)

Quote:

Originally posted by PoweredByHonda

Ahh yes, that's who I meant. Thanks for the clarification
I don't think David or Gary is worthy of the Brabham name.

What a horrid thing to say.

I'm sure Sir Jack would be fascinated to hear your opinion of his boys.

I assume you've not seen them race? Because if you had, you would see two classy drivers with an elegant touch.

And if David is to be classed as a bad driver, after winning the Bathurst 1000, British Formula 3 Championship, Macau GP, Japanese GT Championship, American Professional Sports Car series, class wins at the Le Mans 24 hour race, and being runner-up in the American Le Mans Series, can I ask just what the hell a bloke has to do not to be classed as a bad driver?

RussianFriend · 28 Jun 2001, 08:14 (Ref:110639)

Worst driver (ask Monaco marshals): Ricardo Rosset
Worst car: BAR 1998

Nicholas · 28 Jun 2001, 12:24 (Ref:110717)

Quote:

Originally posted by RussianFriend
Worst car: BAR 1998

Was there ever one?

LucaBadoer · 28 Jun 2001, 14:24 (Ref:110746)

Look at this great pic of Philippe Adams!

http://www.forix.com/iex/img/pi/Adam...e_1994_rn_.jpg

COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Radisichrox · 28 Jun 2001, 15:13 (Ref:110755)

Quote:

Originally posted by TimD

What a horrid thing to say.

I'm sure Sir Jack would be fascinated to hear your opinion of his boys.

I assume you've not seen them race? Because if you had, you would see two classy drivers with an elegant touch.

And if David is to be classed as a bad driver, after winning the Bathurst 1000, British Formula 3 Championship, Macau GP, Japanese GT Championship, American Professional Sports Car series, class wins at the Le Mans 24 hour race, and being runner-up in the American Le Mans Series, can I ask just what the hell a bloke has to do not to be classed as a bad driver?

....... But in formula 1 he never scored a single point and struggled in a car (Simtek 1994, Brabham, 1992) that had the power of a lawnmower. See my point????

williams fan · 28 Jun 2001, 18:19 (Ref:110822)

you lot should stop shouting about the worst driver on the track no-one knows until they are put in a decent car remember a couple of years back when schumi broke his leg and salo took his place? be
before he was in 8th-15th after 4th-6th I ARREST MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

TimD · 28 Jun 2001, 18:40 (Ref:110837)

Precisely, Williams Fan.

And welcome to the forum!

I've never been able to get my head around the assumption that a driver, because he is not one of the lucky six to be in the Ferrari/Williams/Macaroon of any given year, has no right to be considered a master of his art.

I seem to recall some other fellow trying to qualify a 1992 Brabham, and not being terribly convincing.

Goodness only knows what happened to him when he went to Williams in 1993....

EERO · 28 Jun 2001, 18:50 (Ref:110842)

Quote:

Originally posted by TimD

I seem to recall some other fellow trying to qualify a 1992 Brabham, and not being terribly convincing.

Goodness only knows what happened to him when he went to Williams in 1993....

Minardi fan · 29 Jun 2001, 00:26 (Ref:110985)

Nice one Timothy.

badoer fan · 29 Jun 2001, 10:10 (Ref:111094)

Quote:

Originally posted by economy_waffle
Tarso Marques in 1996 especially.

How?? 17th qualified in his first race, times removed and put to the back of the grid. Passed 12 cars on first lap (that really rainy Brazil race in 1996) before being hit from behind at Juncao. Second race at Argentina, qualified 14th, and running 10th before being taken off by Martin Brundle.
These two races were better than Minardi did all season.

badoer fan · 29 Jun 2001, 10:12 (Ref:111095)

ooh, about 12 new posts from days ago magically appeared while I was posting that.

Nicholas · 29 Jun 2001, 15:44 (Ref:111165)

Quote:

Originally posted by badoer fan

17th qualified in his first race, times removed and put to the back of the grid. Passed 12 cars on first lap (that really rainy Brazil race in 1996) before being hit from behind at Juncao. Second race at Argentina, qualified 14th, and running 10th before being taken off by Martin Brundle.
These two races were better than Minardi did all season.

Yeah, I heard about those races when he was announced to join Minardi on a website somewhere, but ever since it's been a bit of a secret for some reason.

Nicholas · 29 Jun 2001, 15:48 (Ref:111168)

Quote:

Originally posted by williams fan
I ARREST MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

I've never heard of anyone arresting a case, sounds interesting

And go easy on the exclamation marks

AndyF · 29 Jun 2001, 18:26 (Ref:111219)

Worst driver - Domenico Schiattarello - Simtex '94, especially at the Monaco Grand Prix.
I quote from Muarry Walker's 1995 review. 'Schiattarello given a suspended $20,000 fine for driving towards traffic during an unsuccessful spin-turn. Qualifies 19th. Involved with lap one Ste Devote shambles and unable to take restart due to damage recieved when car dropped off recovery truck....'

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