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i guess i agree with the slow/quick side of that though. jev is probably a bit too aggressive for the high speed corners, but he's good when you need to shove the car around a bit and attack. of course, that said didn't he score his first points on an epic conservative run on the wrong tyres in malaysia? swings and roundabouts. |
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First Perez and now this. Top teams are really pushing for the 'quite decent' drivers these days aren't they?
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i think the oversaturation of f1 and under-reporting on everything else gives everyone strangely warped views too. a prime example of that is the antonio felix da costa rollercoaster of opinion over the past 12 months. the hype was based on f1 reporters seeing results without really understanding the way the rest of the championship was going. now people are wondering where he is, and assuming it's because he's Doing It Wrong. people should be getting really hyped on vandoorne and magnussen, but they're not. it's kind of odd really. |
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Exactly. And that's the thing - Vettel needs challenged. It seems crazy to me that Seb is on course to bagging a 4th straight world title, which only one other man in history has ever done, and he isn't regarded as the legendary driver that he ought to be. With Ricciardo in the team, that will only continue to be the case. If they stuck Kimi or Alonso in the car and he beat them fair and square his stock would rise enormously. It would be the next best thing to moving team from Vettel's point of view.
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I guess Magnussen is making his way through the ranks in such a paint by numbers kind of way. I haven't seen the sheer speed of a Bianchi or a Grosjean and he hasn't dominated a high level championship as a rookie like Lewis and Hulkenberg did. He's very good, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not excited by the prospect of him as an F1 driver yet. And I'm not convinced that FR 3.5 prepares drivers as well for the modern era of F1 quite as well as GP2. Hence why this year's field has been a massive step up in quality from last year. |
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i don't know what place gp2 has in preparing a driver for f1 any more. for me, it's just a one-make formula that shares similar characteristics to a f1 car that allows rich drivers to play in something that is close enough to what daddy can't *quite* afford. 3.5 is more pure, so it's easier to put in consistent strong performances without the spectre of needing to think too hard about strategy, sacrifice one race for another, or anything like that. gp2 was good in the years that the concept was as simple as 3.5, right at the beginning. now it's too big a gamble to take, and to be honest, it's too late to be picked up by a f1 team unless you've got a big wallet. replicating f1 by having such little track time that the rookies need a season or two to really get going is a bit too much don't get me wrong, i like watching gp2 races, but in the same way i like watching btcc ones... essay, sorry, most of which is entirely off topic. |
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I always thought that F3 was the best barometer of how someone would go in an F1 car.
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it probably still would be if everyone actually did f3! and you know, if everyone could afford top quality engineers etc etc...
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Ricciardo vs Vergne
Best laps at Spa. http://www.pitpass.com/49745/Belgian...test-Race-Laps Ricciardo Lap 38 1:50.967 3rd fastest lap. Vergne Lap 29 1:53.065 14th fastest lap. Interesting table when you compare team mates. |
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Oh come on!! Fastest laps mean nothing. JEV was clearly the quicker STR driver all weekend and beat Dan in quali. If it wasn't for JEV's slow puncture he would have scored a point despite being on a weaker strategy than Dan
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Vergne has always been stronger than Dan at Spa, last year he was 2 tenths quicker than Ricciardo, this year he was only 0.017 quicker in Qualy than Dan this year, he's catching up. besides Webber confirmed his seat at Redbull next year
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Webber did confirm it, so Christian Horner may as well admit it.
JEV has always been better at Spa. He was comprehensively destroying Ricciardo throughout the practice sessions, outqualified him despite obvious mis-calls by the team, and would probably have finished 9th or 10th if not for the slow puncture. |
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