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Quite right, no Sierras were disqualified, but both factory HSV Commodores were outed. They were found guilty of using the VK Commodore steering rack and modifying the crossmember to suit it. The VK's was preferable to the VL's variable ratio rack, but it wasn't homologated for use. Neal Lowe - formerly with the HDT - knew this, protested, and both cars were disqualified. I've never seen this reflected in race results, though. I agree with you about the purpose of Walkinshaw's protest, but wonder why he didn't protest either the Eggenberger car of Moffat's, Wolf car of Mark Petch, or either of the Miedecke Sierras (which had Eggenberger drivers aboard). Maybe the conspiracy theory that it was orchestrated by Eggenberger as payback for the year before wasn't far off? |
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It was strang thought that he did protest the CMS Team from Sweden of Ulf Granberg and Kiwi Inky Tulloch, didn't matter much as they only lasted a few laps, but it was the only European Sierra Protested. I often wondered that after the arse kicking that the Eurpeans got at the hands of Dick and John Bowe at Silverstone weather Eggenberger was giving Walkinshaw info on what he believes was making the cars so fast and he protested accordingly
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If payback was the motivation from the Eggenberger camp, why didnt the protest in the B&H Sierra stick, I mean Mr Gardner was the team boss there, and wasnt it JPS BMW's protest that saw the Eggenberger cars scrubbed the previous year?
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There was a lot of pressure on about not having a second year were the winner of the race is not know till months latter, so Walkinshaw agreed to drop it on what ever Sierra won the race. I think it was just bad luck for them that it was a Gardner car that won
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Agreed. Walkinshaw advised the organisers he was dropping the protest at 11am. At that point the Eggenberger car was in the lead with Longhurst right behind but soon to lose a lap fixing a sticking throttle.
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The atmosphere in the HSV pit that weekend was pretty poisonous and it had nothing to do with the protest. The relationship between TWR and Perkins wasn't a good one and was made even worse when Perkins car was considerably quick than the UK Built TWR Commodore. TWR didn't take too well by being shown up. The fact that Walkinshaw then invoked a contractual right to take over Larry's car during the race and didn't drive to Larry's instructions which in Perkins mind caused the car to DNF was another issue too.
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To the best of my knowledge the '88 Bathurst 1000 was the last drive for Tom Walkinshaw, so a low note to end an otherwise impressive career.
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I think by that stage there was too much going on via his motor racing and business interests too be able to devote the time needed to be a professional race car driver
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From what i remeber of that race it was extremly hot and the Sierras couldnt cope with the extreme heat
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The Swedish CMS Sierra (supplied as a kit of parts from Andy Rouse IIRC) had also been at Silverstone- I think it was the race debut for the car. Could there have been some potential issue with the Swedish car that Walkinshaw was already aware of from Silverstone which led to it being included in the protest, while the other two European-sourced (Moffatt/Eggenberger and Petch/Wolf) Sierras weren't? |
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I know its been over two years since anyone posted in this thread......but I will bump anyway.
Didn't Bondy's team actually find that the protest lodged by Walkinshaw was illegal and should never of been allowed to proceed? Under the rules only an entrant in the race could lodge a formal protest. The fact was that Walkinshaw lodged his protest under his TWR licence, but the entire HSV team (including car #20) were actually entered by Perkins. The stewards of the meeting (both the ARDC and FISA) completely stuffed up by acting on the protest. Of course it could have been easily rectified by Perkins protesting, which I've no doubt he would have if it was needed. I find it ironic that the Sierra's were eventually cleared (even if the Longhurst car had its protest withdrawn) while the 3 HSV team cars were found to be illegal. All through the ATCC Perkins had been telling anyone who'd listen that the Sierra's weren't legal (in his opinion), yet in the end 2 of the 3 HSV cars that had illegal mods to their steering racks were built by.....Perkins. Perkins recently came out in "Australian Muscle Car" magazine saying that the 1988 Tooheys 1000 was one that got away and that he believed Walkinshaw was death riding his #10 car by not sticking to its Perkins enforced rev limit. Typical Larry on that one ignoring the fact that he'd been caught cheating. If truth be told the cars DNF saved Holden and HSV the embarrassment of a post race DQ so Tom did them a favour, even if he didn't know it at the time. If car #10 had not retired there is a good chance it could have "won" the race as for the last 25 laps while Mezera was at the wheel of Longhurst's car it was suffering a break problem and was in no position to be pushed hard in a late race scrap for the lead (much like Moff's Falcon in 1977, but we all know how that ended). Holden and HSV were already somewhat in the public and media doghouse for the HSV VL Commodore being released so late (IIRC Holden had already launched the VN by the time the VL SV hit the race track), this would have been a PR disaster. Last edited by Holden308; 29 Oct 2013 at 13:23. |
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I pointed this out to the editors of Australian Muscle Magazine in a letter published in issue 68. It would not have been good for the sport to have the winners of the Great Race disqualified two years in a row. |
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That was your letter saying the HSV team cars were as legal as a $3 note?
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I still believe that the protest against the Aussie Sierra's (or at least, those with no English/European connection, not counting the Swedish Sierra) was not done to find any illegalities, it was simply done to disrupt race preparations. Why else would the protest have been lodged as soon as final qualifying finished and not earlier in the week? Although I think they did plan it that way, they were also shocked that the fastest Commodore (Perkins) was over 4.5 seconds slower than Dick Johnson's pole winning car.
Had to laugh at Walkinshaw's reason for only protesting the Australian built Sierra's....."they were the fastest ones". No credibility there since he protested the 12th placed Shell car, yet left alone the Moffat (Eggenberger) car and the Rouse kit Miedecke / Bagnall cars which were 4th, 5th and 6th fastest. Mad Andy and Bags also had Steve Soper and Pierre Dieudonné as co-drivers.... |
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Interestingly with the full race released on DVD last year including what was happening during the ad breaks, Channel 7 was on-board with Brock during an ad break when he hit the tyre, yet it was never replayed.
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