F3 driving standards - Page 2

Francesca · 2 Apr 2002, 17:28 (Ref:250114)

Oh except mine of course

sgrok · 2 Apr 2002, 20:40 (Ref:250294)

Quote:

Originally posted by rlinter
As a bonefide member of the Press Corp - I can assure you that 95% of the hype around skippy was generated by either the Alan Gow or Carlin organisations.

And lets face it the paper motorsport press as it is (ie Autosnort & Motorsnort news) are not exactly reknowned for the objective journolistic style. So they print what ever they percieve to be the facts based on the average of 5 press releases a week that they recieved for the last month or so. Everytime Skippy blew his nose his PR machine went in to over drive.

On the other hand Robbie's preseason PR has been delibrately subdued and look at the results.

Go Robbie...

Press Corp member? Perhaps you should go back to journo school and learn to spell/some grammar.

Y'see, Courtney's hype machine runs on the same PR fuel that propels the likes of Anthony 'Godlike' Davidson and Lewis 'the next Kimi' Hamilton into the public eye.

But could it be a spot of nationalism that's colouring the view of Courtney - anyone who's English (perhaps with the exception of Adam Blair

) gets backed wholeheartedly whilst other nationalities - even Scots and Irish - get shot down whatever they do.

As for JC, weaving, chopping, ducking or diving - I feel these measures were more likely the result of desperation to succeed having had such heavy expectations placed upon his young shoulders.

He did put it on pole, twice.

Garaputo · 2 Apr 2002, 21:24 (Ref:250352)

Anyone here know anything about F3? Get too close to the car in front and you loose downforce (reason James went off on Sunday). Courtney was blocking Kerr to give himself room to go for fastest lap (which he got). Courtney knew he couldn't pass the Frenchman so he got all the points he could other ways, giving him joint lead in the championship. Donington in two weeks, James gets the car off the line and goes off into the distance.

The boy is not only blindingly quick but, he can use his brain at the same time. Wait and see.

hysen · 2 Apr 2002, 21:31 (Ref:250356)

Quote:

Originally posted by rlinter
Everytime Skippy blew his nose his PR machine went in to over drive.

On the other hand Robbie's preseason PR has been delibrately subdued and look at the results.

Deliberately Subdued???!! If it was he hasn't got the right management team! You've only got to look at Marc Hynes to see that results mean very little, PR and spin is whats needed.

rick vaux · 2 Apr 2002, 21:32 (Ref:250357)

From post eleven Robbie was pulling away down to pilgrims drop every lap to start with, then skipinder closed right up within two laps,and we expected him to be in front soon, but Robbie pulled some magic out from that car and done the BIZZO...
There were some awfull blocking tactics from post 11 onwards though, at one stage the Ralt was forced onto the grass, only just to make it back on track.
Lets not get carried away though, it`s only the first race,
I for one didn`t back James for this year, but when all is said and done, he has backing, he has a car that will win, thats not in doubt,lets see if his character will last the season,or will the " Robbie " rob him of the title skip thinks will be his ...?....

sneakyg · 2 Apr 2002, 22:50 (Ref:250429)

Sorry don't remember who, but, mentioned that we are all quick to build something up, but even quicker to knock them down. A British thing I believe.
Robbie kerr flattered his B class car last year, Fred Goddard is not noted for his quallity.! and therefore went into 2002 as a semi unknown.
Cortney was a rising star in the an allegedly superior car, wrong. Goes to show everything is not what it seems.
From watching the race meeting courtesy of mstworld.com I think the right guys won. Also, isn't it great that Carlin have been put in their place by Promatecme, without doubt the Team of the meeting.
I can't wait for Donnington, just a shame I have to watch it remotely, out here in never never land.

mac · 3 Apr 2002, 00:49 (Ref:250482)

Geez, you lot are quick to write guys off. The Brits are giving it to Sato over in the F1 forum after 3 races because he took "Wilson's" seat. And after 1 weekend in F3, Courtney's apparently gone, shot, stuffed, had it, scared etc. It was 1 weekend!!! And he picked up a solid points haul to boot. James has won championships before (karting and fford). He absolutely dominated fford in 2000. I think it's a little early to be announcing that James is finished for the season.

BennyBoy1978 · 3 Apr 2002, 08:25 (Ref:250655)

exactly what I was trying to say mac! Courtney is a great little driver and I'll eat my hat if he dosn't win the championship

sgrok · 3 Apr 2002, 10:02 (Ref:250715)

Quote:

Originally posted by hysen

You've only got to look at Marc Hynes to see that results mean very little, PR and spin is whats needed.

Same for Lewis Hamilton...

And Benny Boy and Mac - I'm with you. JC will walk all over the rest of the field once he's sorted out his starts!

BennyBoy1978 · 3 Apr 2002, 10:05 (Ref:250720)

No don't say that some people will throw it back at you when he only wins by a few tenths

**bella** · 3 Apr 2002, 10:10 (Ref:250724)

what do you like with your hat, sir? we've got salad, chips....

i agree, he's going to win simply because he's a fantastic driver. jaguar aren't hanging onto him for nothing.

Francesca · 3 Apr 2002, 10:31 (Ref:250743)

Quote:

Originally posted by sgrok
But could it be a spot of nationalism that's colouring the view of Courtney - anyone who's English (perhaps with the exception of Adam Blair) gets backed wholeheartedly ...

except Gary Paffett too.

Us Brits are useless at supporting our own drivers!

BennyBoy1978 · 3 Apr 2002, 11:17 (Ref:250785)

I'll have chips with me hat thanks with just a little salt thanks

flange-tastic · 3 Apr 2002, 15:15 (Ref:250966)

except Rob Austin too

jawa · 3 Apr 2002, 16:44 (Ref:250986)

I don't think that Robbie was 'written-off' before the F3 season began. I think it's just a case that in F3 nowadays the team is as important as the driver. If Robbie was in a Manor or a Carlin car then he'd have generated reams more publicity. No question. James was a race-winner last year and had just scooped the top drive in the category. It's hard to ignore that.

If Takuma Sato had been in an ADR car last season, do you think he'd have had such an easy ride to the title? No way...

No disrespect to Alan, but he's not proven that his cars can cut it over an entire season. On the basis of last weekend's races, I hope Robbie can prove me wrong.

Jonny Apex · 3 Apr 2002, 17:11 (Ref:250995)

Quote:

Originally posted by rlinter
As a bonefide member of the Press Corp - I can assure you that 95% of the hype around skippy was generated by either the Alan Gow or Carlin organisations.

And lets face it the paper motorsport press as it is (ie Autosnort & Motorsnort news) are not exactly reknowned for the objective journolistic style. So they print what ever they percieve to be the facts based on the average of 5 press releases a week that they recieved for the last month or so. Everytime Skippy blew his nose his PR machine went in to over drive.

As a 'bonefide' member of the 'press corps', I trust you only do pictures and not words, judging by your spelling, punctuation and grammar ...

Jonny Apex · 3 Apr 2002, 17:15 (Ref:250998)

Apologies, sgrok, you got in there ahead of me. The point needed making, though.

rlinter · 3 Apr 2002, 17:29 (Ref:251005)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonny Apex

As a 'bonefide' member of the 'press corps', I trust you only do pictures and not words, judging by your spelling, punctuation and grammar ...

Spilling & Grandma are the job of the Sub Editor and/or spell checker.

Neither of which I have here.

Paddock Spy · 3 Apr 2002, 17:36 (Ref:251010)

Perhaps the point that rlinter is making with regards to being a "bonafide" member of the press corps is that he has a paper round. You cannot get closer to the news than that, now can you? Up at six every morning with his bag full of papers

Or perhaps he works for formula-3000.net? Just a thought.

rlinter · 3 Apr 2002, 17:58 (Ref:251043)

Nah I don't work for formula-300.net and I am a tad to old to have a paper round. I actually am one of the few memebers of the Domestic Motorsport Press Corps that hold both National & International Press cards.

B/Mark · 3 Apr 2002, 20:08 (Ref:251196)

I thought this was about driving standards not spelling!
The standard at Brands was bad and as usual the Clerk of the Course didn't want to know. Incredibly there were no observers reports of bad tactics - white sticks all round next christmas then. Perhaps we will have to wait for a big shunt before anything gets said.

Richard Tarling · 3 Apr 2002, 20:16 (Ref:251201)

yea, lets have a big shunt! I rekon Bruce and Robbie should ram courtney at the next race!

b.t.w. why is everybody afraid to show their names?

**bella** · 3 Apr 2002, 20:21 (Ref:251204)

because you can't chuck handbags at someone to their face, nor can they make sarcastic remarks under their normal identities.
that and they're all chickens (says she, operating under a cunning pseudonym. hey, most people know who i am now..

)

paulzinho · 3 Apr 2002, 21:03 (Ref:251259)

We do? Or am I a monority...

*whistles away*

rlinter · 3 Apr 2002, 21:06 (Ref:251263)

Quote:

Originally posted by bella
because you can't chuck handbags at someone to their face, nor can they make sarcastic remarks under their normal identities.
that and they're all chickens (says she, operating under a cunning pseudonym. hey, most people know who i am now.. )

Wanna know who I am check my profile there is nothing to hide.

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