Supercars 2021 Media Rights - Page 2

Just Do It! · 21 Mar 2018, 20:59 (Ref:3809719)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

But your thinking about current technology, Not the technology that is coming. 5G is coming

And we can always build more towers

Wireless delivery of internet services is the way for much of Japan and wider Asia. I've seen wi-fi speed tests done showing 1900 MBps download speeds - not bad for a mobile network.

E.B · 22 Mar 2018, 00:28 (Ref:3809759)

Re NBN / Telstra I have both.... despite my wanting to decline (on advice from a friend in Telstra) when I got the call advising me the area was to be upgraded to NBN. I said thanks but no thanks to which they said I had no options and ADSL would no longer be available. Oh and our engineers will be at your premises in 2 weeks to do the installation.

Much activity in the street but no digging up of roads or driveway. Installation goes ahead and I am told it will take 24 hours to activate. Also not to switch anything on until I am told to. No landline no internet and no Foxtel signal. 24 hours became 3 days and still no word and no service. So I just decided to switch it on myself. It worked. For 5 days when I was sent an email to say I might have service interruptions because they had to do some upgrades. Indeed another 24 hours of no phone, 'net or Foxtel. Service resumed and I rang them to say I would like to take up my option to restore old system.... sorry not an option.

Now 6 months on I have and still get days of service interruption, although now it sometimes leaves me with Foxtel.

They did upgrade my plan for no charge to give me unlimited downloads. Yesterday I received an email to tell me I had been (no charge) upgraded to a faster evening time speed:

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we’ve upgraded your Telstra T-Bundle Connector Everyday internet speed from Standard Evening Speed (nbn tier 25) to Standard Plus Evening Speed (nbn tier 50), at no extra cost, for the life of your plan. Standard Plus Evening Speed provides typical minimum speeds of 40 Mbps between 7pm and 11pm.

I thought great. Yesterday afternoon (standard speed time) I did a speedtest. 24mbps. 8pm when my speeds were meant to have been increased I did another test. 19mbps! Under half of the expected and promised 40mbps, and slower than my standard day speed. No I was not downloading movies during my tests.

They call it progress.

Umai Naa · 22 Mar 2018, 05:08 (Ref:3809787)

Hang onto ADSL as long as you can, has been my advice.

Although I find it highly coincidental that within weeks of wireless NBN being implemented in my area, that an iffy 'phone line has reared it's head...

E.B · 22 Mar 2018, 05:54 (Ref:3809789)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Hang onto ADSL as long as you can, has been my advice.

Although I find it highly coincidental that within weeks of wireless NBN being implemented in my area, that an iffy 'phone line has reared it's head...

As I said I requested that I wanted to stay with my ADSL and was told in no uncertain terms that ADSL was to be disconnected in my area as soon as NBN was installed and that if I wanted internet it had to be NBN.

peckstar · 22 Mar 2018, 10:54 (Ref:3809846)

i love my NBN, quicker, more data, same price

Umai Naa · 22 Mar 2018, 11:35 (Ref:3809857)

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Originally Posted by E.B

As I said I requested that I wanted to stay with my ADSL and was told in no uncertain terms that ADSL was to be disconnected in my area as soon as NBN was installed and that if I wanted internet it had to be NBN.

The current NBN offer that my ISP has put forward to me, is wireless.

They're only suggesting similar speeds up and down, though, and given how dependant on good weather it'll be, may lack stability.

E.B · 22 Mar 2018, 12:25 (Ref:3809872)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

i love my NBN, quicker, more data, same price

I like those aspects with my (wireless) NBN.... yes it is quicker than ADSL2 was, but still woeful (half of) the expected and NBN nominated actual download rate.

I also get more outages, and the fact it also usually takes out my television (Foxtel) in those outages... only 3 today, admittedly only a few minutes each time today, but they happened twice in V8 qualifying.

In reality I would prefer the slower more reliable service I got from ADSL2.

Tourer · 24 Mar 2018, 01:41 (Ref:3810275)

Cricket Australia not happy with initial media rights bids.
The outcome could be telling for other sports such as Supercars.
For example the networks could dig deeper for Cricket and have little left for anything else.
Or the networks could tell Cricket "that's all there is" and as a result, rights fees slide back generally.
With Cricket splitting the broadcast properties into 11 sections, it could mean that if you were into Cricket and wanted to watch everything, you'd need multiple subscription products to do so.
Interesting times ahead.

Ospi · 24 Mar 2018, 04:15 (Ref:3810315)

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Originally Posted by E.B

I like those aspects with my (wireless) NBN.... yes it is quicker than ADSL2 was, but still woeful (half of) the expected and NBN nominated actual download rate.

I also get more outages, and the fact it also usually takes out my television (Foxtel) in those outages... only 3 today, admittedly only a few minutes each time today, but they happened twice in V8 qualifying.

In reality I would prefer the slower more reliable service I got from ADSL2.

You know we're being fooled when you can visit a small town in Malaysia, 100km away from KL and still achieve download speeds 10x that of NBN. Malaysia for heavens sake.

peckstar · 24 Mar 2018, 04:26 (Ref:3810316)

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Originally Posted by Ospi

You know we're being fooled when you can visit a small town in Malaysia, 100km away from KL and still achieve download speeds 10x that of NBN. Malaysia for heavens sake.

this report would disagree with you

http://www.speedtest.net/global-index

Ospi · 24 Mar 2018, 04:54 (Ref:3810319)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

this report would disagree with you

http://www.speedtest.net/global-index

On average somewhere like Malaysia will be very low on the list given their coverage will be limited nationwide at reasonable speeds. My post was simply an observation based on what I was achieving when there.

NBN theoretical max is 100, Malaysian fibre 500.

E.B · 24 Mar 2018, 09:31 (Ref:3810365)

Mobile download rates are good in Australia... it is the fixed lines that are woeful and worse download speeds than the average 3rd world nation.

mayhem · 24 Mar 2018, 22:10 (Ref:3810506)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

Cricket Australia not happy with initial media rights bids.
The outcome could be telling for other sports such as Supercars.
For example the networks could dig deeper for Cricket and have little left for anything else.
Or the networks could tell Cricket "that's all there is" and as a result, rights fees slide back generally.
With Cricket splitting the broadcast properties into 11 sections, it could mean that if you were into Cricket and wanted to watch everything, you'd need multiple subscription products to do so.
Interesting times ahead.

Cricket Australia might be instructed to spit in one hand and wish in another after last night's shenanigans, Australian cricket already on the nose with a lot of its fan base already, now they're clearly cheats.

Tourer · 24 Mar 2018, 22:17 (Ref:3810508)

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Originally Posted by mayhem

Cricket Australia might be instructed to spit in one hand and wish in another after last night's shenanigans, Australian cricket already on the nose with a lot of its fan base already, now they're clearly cheats.

Yep - that felt like a strong possibility before the cheating began. Cricket Australia is going to be severely wounded by the national team cheating - it kinda breaks down the bedrock of the "clean" approach that CA tends to take.

You'd have to think that they're on shaky ground due to image problems thanks to the stupidity of the national team.

mayhem · 24 Mar 2018, 22:22 (Ref:3810510)

In between being able to hand out sledging but not be able to take it, and now this, well, they're an unlikable bunch to say the least.

Ospi · 24 Mar 2018, 23:57 (Ref:3810529)

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Originally Posted by mayhem

In between being able to hand out sledging but not be able to take it, and now this, well, they're an unlikable bunch to say the least.

Well, they're Aussies in sport.

E.B · 25 Mar 2018, 02:34 (Ref:3810544)

An embarrassment to Australians and Australia. Not only cheating but planning to cheat by a bunch of guys who are role models to thousands of kids.
Its just not cricket.

cavvy · 25 Mar 2018, 21:13 (Ref:3810733)

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Originally Posted by mayhem

Cricket Australia might be instructed to spit in one hand and wish in another after last night's shenanigans, Australian cricket already on the nose with a lot of its fan base already, now they're clearly cheats.

Winning #1, ethics .....

ford71 · 25 Mar 2018, 23:23 (Ref:3810757)

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Originally Posted by E.B

An embarrassment to Australians and Australia. Not only cheating but planning to cheat by a bunch of guys who are role models to thousands of kids.
Its just not cricket.

Thats the bit that annoys me the most. My kid lives for cricket. Its bloody disgraceful.

Mixer · 26 Mar 2018, 12:57 (Ref:3810923)

Poms and saffers have been doing it for years and both have been caught, so the mock horror is misplaced.

The sin is getting caught.

ford71 · 27 Mar 2018, 00:09 (Ref:3811115)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Poms and saffers have been doing it for years and both have been caught, so the mock horror is misplaced.

The sin is getting caught.

We could point and yell Cheat in those instances

racer69 · 27 Mar 2018, 00:25 (Ref:3811117)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

Cricket Australia not happy with initial media rights bids.
The outcome could be telling for other sports such as Supercars.
For example the networks could dig deeper for Cricket and have little left for anything else.
Or the networks could tell Cricket "that's all there is" and as a result, rights fees slide back generally.
With Cricket splitting the broadcast properties into 11 sections, it could mean that if you were into Cricket and wanted to watch everything, you'd need multiple subscription products to do so.
Interesting times ahead.

I find it amusing that after putting your rights out to tender, you can turn around and tell the networks that you haven't offered up enough.

Surely it is the networks that determine the value of a product, not the product itself? And if you aren't being offered what you want, try and find out why, rather than just say "pay us more"

Tourer · 27 Mar 2018, 01:46 (Ref:3811125)

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Originally Posted by racer69

I find it amusing that after putting your rights out to tender, you can turn around and tell the networks that you haven't offered up enough.

Surely it is the networks that determine the value of a product, not the product itself? And if you aren't being offered what you want, try and find out why, rather than just say "pay us more"

Yep, I agree. Maybe the nature of CA's reply to the bidders has been mis-reported but it sounds like some of the arrogance talked about in regard to the national men's team could be alive within the administration as well.

Average Punter · 27 Mar 2018, 02:26 (Ref:3811132)

I know.

The TV networks are behind the ball-tampering!!

Devalue the product and get it for a steal.

They're geniuses.

mayhem · 27 Mar 2018, 23:30 (Ref:3811374)

Would have been a tough sell getting those money hungry Aussie cricketers to devalue their own product.

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