Most Grotesque GT/Sportscar creation ever - Page 2

Chofar · 3 Jul 2003, 18:11 (Ref:651149)

Peter Canary's Eagle at LM in the late 80's was not so ugly but desperately slow and stupid in conception. And the new Ford Gt 40 in race version will be ugly too.

Tim Northcutt · 3 Jul 2003, 18:32 (Ref:651176)

To Zandbak:

He probably can be sent to jail for it...

Charge him with "Assaulting Racing Fans"

or possibly "Impersonating a Designer with a Clue"

or even "Aggravated Vandalism of Engineering Sensibilities"

pink69 · 3 Jul 2003, 21:18 (Ref:651326)

I'll go with Wout, that car is pretty hidious!

Nordic · 4 Jul 2003, 10:22 (Ref:651845)

Take a pretty open Lancia, buy some GRP and sellotape & hey presto you end up with this.....
Maybe not the worst ever looking car, but its close when you consider what it used to look like.
Big pat on back to whoever names the car, venue & year.

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 10:36 (Ref:651863)

Lancia LC1- the Gp6 barchetta that Martini Racing ran in the first year of Group C, modified to a Gp C car by the Sivama-Grifone team (hink that's the correct name) in 1983.

Circuit looks like Silverstone- didn't Mark Thatcher drive for them at one point, or was that earlier when they ran Gp 5 Beta Monte Carlos?

As you said- how to butcher an originally pretty car in one easy lesson....

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 10:42 (Ref:651873)

Quote:

Originally posted by Wout
very ugly indeed

http://racingsportscars.t35.com:8000...-06-14-113.jpg

Thanks for finding the Thibault Chevron pic- that was they year it actually raced at Le Mans- it was also entered in 88 as well (in a plain red livery, renamed as a TJ-01) but failed scrutineering- one Le Mans report described it as a 'grotty red blob'....

Nordic · 4 Jul 2003, 11:26 (Ref:651927)

Thats right KA - 83 silverstone, the drivers for this one No 51 , (there where 2), where Sigula/Larrauri
Mark Thatcher did drive one of the Grp 5 beta's in 82 at silverstone.

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 12:59 (Ref:652203)

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim Northcutt
Guys....

Nothing is as Ugly as some of the madcap creations back from the original Can-Am days in the late 1960s and early 1970s...

Surf the web for pics of the original UOP Shadow to get a taste or what Ugly or Grotesque really mean when it comes to sportscars....

Look at the Can-Am prototypes though...some were just awful...

How about this one- the MAC'S-IT Special?- and no, you're not seeing things, that IS a car with 4 engines......

http://www.photoessayist.net/canam/macs/mac-01.html

http://www.photoessayist.net/canam/macs/index.html

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 13:06 (Ref:652222)

...and (in model form), the original Shadow:

http://homepage.mac.com/mfc143/models/shadow_avs.html

Nordic · 4 Jul 2003, 13:53 (Ref:652320)

I'm still searching out a picture of the ugliest racecar ever (any type of major series) that date back to 1963 0r 1964...

Smokey Ynunnick build a car for the Indy 500 that literally look ed like a motorcycle side car mounted to a flat frame with a big engine sitting right next to the driver...Butt Ugly...

But I cannot find a pic of it anywhere (and it would probably be copyrighted anyway...

Tim
Scroll down and you will see there is a head on picture of the Capsule car from the 500, your right its not a nice.
[/B][/QUOTE] Capsule car

edu · 4 Jul 2003, 14:34 (Ref:652377)

Mid-engine and front-driver

Tim Northcutt · 4 Jul 2003, 14:38 (Ref:652381)

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Nordic!!!!!

That's the Car!!!!

Butt Ugly!!!!!

Gotta be close to the ugliest car ever.....

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 14:46 (Ref:652386)

Quote:

Originally posted by edu
Mid-engine and front-driver

WHAT ON EARTH IS THAT??????

**skycafe** · 4 Jul 2003, 15:19 (Ref:652417)

WOW! You guys are really outdoing each other with this topic! I liked the MAC-IT's plaid upholstery.

But this thing from edu, well, I am really not sure what to say...it must be the forerunner of the Daytona Prototype class, which is now looking better all the time-considering the potential alternatives that may come from Brazil!

Nordic · 4 Jul 2003, 15:31 (Ref:652427)

Edu's picture reminds me of a channels Islands sand racer.
whatever it is I hope the goodwood FOS gets hold of it someday.

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 17:27 (Ref:652515)

Quote:

Originally posted by skycafe
this I liked the MAC-IT's plaid upholstery.

Well, if it was good enough for Mercedes.....

http://store.racelegends.com/default...skudatarq=1040

Going back to Can Am though- as Tim said earlier, the rules allowed teams to come up with all kinds of madcap creations- but madcap and ugly doesn't neccessarily mean unsuccessful- remeber the Chparral 2J? You could call it ugly, but it was so fast they banned it....

http://www.vicelford.com/gallery/7large.jpg

http://www.vicelford.com/gallery/23large.jpg

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 17:30 (Ref:652521)

Some wonderful photos on Vic Elford's site- the Shadow again:

http://www.vicelford.com/gallery/6large.jpg

(It isn't until you see a pic of the actual car with a driver in it that you appreciate just how weird it was....)

429CJ · 4 Jul 2003, 17:44 (Ref:652535)

Wow, that looks really compact, like open top version of the 80's Ecosse C2.

edu · 4 Jul 2003, 17:47 (Ref:652540)

The car of the photo was constructed in Brazil in 1965, by Bica Votnamis. It known as "Caçador de Estrelas" (Star Hunter). The engine is of Corvette V-8. Never finished a race.

**skycafe** · 4 Jul 2003, 18:14 (Ref:652567)

Hey, edu, a Corvette V-8? Mercy! What sort of class did this car race in? Was it meant for the long distance over the road races?

KA · 4 Jul 2003, 19:23 (Ref:652655)

Quote:

Originally posted by edu
Never finished a race.

Somehow that fact doesn't come as a great surprise.....

gttouring · 4 Jul 2003, 20:06 (Ref:652717)

ha ha that thing has like 13 inch wheels or somethin!
it is so goofy

edu · 4 Jul 2003, 23:32 (Ref:652958)

Quote:

Originally posted by skycafe
Hey, edu, a Corvette V-8? Mercy! What sort of class did this car race in? Was it meant for the long distance over the road races?

The main championships of that one were "free-force" (no tech regs..). The main race was the 1000 Miles Brazilian.

The "Caçador de Estrelas" is a good idea, one good way to make one car with mid engine and small space between the axles. But it does not seem to be safe

Other Brazilian cars of the time: Karman Ghia Porsche , Fitti-Porsche , Fitti-Volks 3200 (two VW flat-four), Brasinca 4200GT (Uirapuru) , etc..

The best ones of this time were in the Copersucar F-1 team

**skycafe** · 4 Jul 2003, 23:44 (Ref:652961)

edu, thanks! The Karman Ghia is great (I want one!), the Fitti-Volks is wild. I have no skill with Portuguese, the Fitti-Porsche was based on a 550 RS Chassis? That is a nice looking car! It is no small wonder Emerson developed car handling skill looking at some of the things he was playing with.

I am a VW nut, and I have never seen that double bug. Wow.

These races were on a track, or over the public roads?

pirenzo · 4 Jul 2003, 23:55 (Ref:652966)

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim Northcutt
YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Nordic!!!!!

That's the Car!!!!

Butt Ugly!!!!!

Gotta be close to the ugliest car ever.....

I've seen it at Goodwood, and i thought it wasn't that bad. Maybe that's because it's competition absolutely rotted!

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