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How many pubs,clubs,motels,hotels,holiday apartment buildings,resorts and associated operations such as sports cafes and commercial premises have Fox ?-might be interesting to factor that in !
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There are 24 houses in the block and I know all the owners/residents and only ONE(1) has Foxtel & that family are not into motor racing at all (into fishing). Talking too him about costs on Tuesday it came light now that he's been made redundant looking to cut costs (save money) maybe getting rid of Foxtel as can't justify the expense in these lean times. AS he said to me food & unavoidable expense's come first.
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They will all definitely double their sponsorship of all teams, after all one email from Peckstar, what more evidence would you nee that everyone is thrilled about the switch and will be signing up in their thousands.
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Well Jack Daniels has their head in the sand. Obviously following the V$upercars
spin doctors line. Their reply below in bold. Thanks for you're email regarding the new TV details for V8 Supercars. As you may know the following V8 Supercar events, Adelaide, Townsville, Sandown, Bathurst, Gold Coast and Sydney will still be shown live on Network Ten under the new six-year Fox/Fox Sports/Ten agreement. While the remaining races will be telecast on Fox Sports. Of the races shown on Fox Sports, a one-hour highlights package of these events will be screened at 8:30pm on One and 11:30pm on Ten on the Saturday and Sunday nights of the events. Sunday's will also see the one-hour highlights package broadcast on Ten from 4:00pm. The above will deliver a significant increase in overall TV coverage and as such media value. Although we would love for every race to remain on free to air TV, more and more consumers are watching V8's via digital mediums [i.e. V8 Supercars app or via Twitter]. As such the sport needed to adapt to these changing trends while still returning investment to the share holders and positioning the sport for the years to come. |
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Likewise, the sport needing to adapt to changing trends ... what now, V8Supercars needs to align itself with a yearly changing trend downwards in subscription rates to - in a majority of cases - unaffordable Foxtel packages? Wow ... Warbsy must've dangled more than a Parc Ferme` carrot in convincing people (queue networks & sponsors) who should know much better than that. A fool and their money are soon parted *shrug* I guess corporate sponsorship will be finding that out over the course of the first year or two of the new arrangement. One thing's for absolute certain though .. the people who could not afford PayTV before this 'deal' cannot all of a sudden snap their fingers and fork out $$ just because of V8Supercars. As has been mentioned in this and other threads before - V8Supercars just ain't that big of a reason to find unavailable extra bucks, especially when there's utility bills to pay, kids to clothe, mortgages to pay and food needed for the table. Foxtel, in that situation, either will be one of the first luxuries to go for a lot of people who are just hanging in there with it, or it won't even make it to 1st base for those who want it but cannot afford it (you know, the bread & butter families who have supported the series through the affordability of FTA in the decades past). Quote:
If they're talking PayTV, then sure, there is an increase in it ... there has to be given there's no live coverage on that medium yet! However, for FTA, it doesn't convert into a significant increase - in fact, a 1 hour highlights package is less than half what we get now on FTA during each round - so I wonder what maths was used to put the massive Warby sell increase % out there for more TV coverage? Did they take the more than halving of FTA into account before they generously added the PayTV increase? You see, it comes across as dodgy maths for again, the average consumer who is looking for simplicity, affordability and honesty and when it becomes too much to take in, or when the figures are just too rubbery to give a hoot about, then interest starts to (and is forced to) decline commensurately. Time will tell, as in all things, but something seriously magical has to take place in order for this to work the way they foresee it, and I do not see any magicians lining up to pull V8Supercars out of their hats, nor do I see V8Supercars becoming something far more than they are now, in the space of a year, to attract more people to the PayTV show, as it were.. Last edited by sweetchuk; 7 Mar 2014 at 14:25. |
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I know free to air ratings boxes are distributed throughout the Aussie population (I know this because I was offered one a couple of years ago but told them I couldn't be bothered as I download most of my viewing) but how do Foxtel get their ratings ? Does every single Foxtel box message back to headquarters letting them know what people are watching ?
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Is v8s plan on having all the street races on free to air, so there will maybe be less people watching races at permanent circuits on tv? Then again there could be bigger crowds at Winton, P.I, Qld Raceway, W.A, N.T, Tassie, N.Z, The Creek. We'll just have to wait and see. |
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Well with all the negatives time for a few positives.
All races, practice and qualifying live and ad free if you watch via Pay TV. As a Foxtel subscriber already it's a win for me but not for everyone out there. One thing I notice watching the current V8 replays via SPEED is that SPEED runs only half the ad breaks and we get Noon's commentating during the ad breaks. One positive with a highlights package is it will hopefully cut out the crap but some races they would struggle to get an hours worth of highlights. |
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