Ford vs Ferrari movie

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

Its the story of the Ford GT40

Because of the title I assumed it would also be about Ferrari.

[GT6]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Because of the title I assumed it would also be about Ferrari.

yes but just like F1 at the moment they get badly beaten

[MaskedRacer]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

When the real deals are true characters like Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles, it's gonna be hard to match that. Lee Iaocca and HF2 for that matter...Enzo, too but who cares about him?!

HOWEVER, I wasn't alive during this time and have always loved the actual story. How Hollywoodfied it ends up being is what will be the tipping point.

Rush was well done to me, with those little things like me saying "that's not Suzuka, that's Brands Hatch!" Same with Days of Thunder. That's Rockingham, not Daytona!! One is a movie based on true events and the other is loosely based on real people but the inner workings of true stories into film will always be a chore.

Brühl and Hemsworth were good in Rush and I find Damon and Bale enjoyable, so the acting won't be an issue. Odd Damon is Shelby, tho....

Anyway, I'm generally excited with cautious optimism. This is what I want people to make movies about. I've got two comic book kids and I'm sooooo over Marvel / DC movies (some are decent), so we'll be there, just not when it opens. That's older son's birthday so I'll have to watch another comic book film...

Marvel Cinematic movies are fantastic. Yes there are some downers even in there. Iron Man 3 and Captain Marvel were duds. Black Panther is very overrated. Must add that Star Wars The Last Jedi is also well documented as being a horrible horrible film. As a racing fan its a shame to say I have not seen "Rush" yet. I have had the misfortune of having seen "Driven", but at least the music in that movie is cool. Glad to see sportscars get some love. Would be awesome in the "Ford vs Ferrari" movie if there is an epilogue near the end that features the 2016 Le Mans battle between the 2 makes.

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

Marvel Cinematic movies are fantastic. Yes there are some downers even in there. Iron Man 3 and Captain Marvel were duds. Black Panther is very overrated. Must add that Star Wars The Last Jedi is also well documented as being a horrible horrible film. As a racing fan its a shame to say I have not seen "Rush" yet. I have had the misfortune of having seen "Driven", but at least the music in that movie is cool. Glad to see sportscars get some love. Would be awesome in the "Ford vs Ferrari" movie if there is an epilogue near the end that features the 2016 Le Mans battle between the 2 makes.

Well, if you're not a comic book person, like me, they're a tough sell and there's complete oversaturation of them, ATM. I love films and really enjoyed 3 or 4 comic films but there's been 20 Marvel films alone the last 15 years with more coming. My wife hates baseball but loves Bull Durham. How many great baseball movies are there in all of history?

And the Black Panther was the last straw for me. I thought it was horrendous and everyone loved it. The plot was dull and like most of the other comic book films, it was all visuals and could have been wrapped up in 90 mins or less.

That's just my opinion and why I'm not a millionaire movie producer.

[deggis]

I have followed this project for some time and I was a bit disappointed by the trailer. The trailer is probably deceiving on purpose (i.e. including more action even if the film might not have that much action), but I think it is still revealing the style of the movie. And I was hoping for a less flamboyant, more toned down and more serious style.

Altough the movie will probably leave British involvement out of the story (Lola Cars etc), I don't care about small historical inaccuracies, in the same way that I don't care if a World War II movie has wrong kind of museum tanks if the combat scenes are still believably re-created. Unfortunately in this case they might have the correct cars, but the racing scenes look more like Pixar movies and less like old racing film reels emphasized by that flying Ferrari? 100 feet in the air.

Based on the trailer the 1966 race itself is not going to be a huge part of the movie. Hopefully it doesn't simplify the racing part too much.

ps. That Le Mans recreation in the trailer looks a bit like Road Atlanta with CGI scenery. Not bad considering you can immediately tell which sections of the Le Mans they're supposed to resemble. Other circuits that can be recognized are Auto Club, Willow Springs and Fontana as Daytona.

[deggis]

Originally Posted by HDTVKSS

Why do i have a bad feeling they are going to re write the 66 race result....

While the trailer gives the impression and there's exactly 1 driver featured in the film, besides Miles (Bale), Amon, McLaren and Hulme are all listed on the IMDB cast list. They're probably minor extra roles though. Only Bruce McLaren's actor looks like someone who might even have a line or two.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1950186/fullcredits

Trivia:

Ben Collins is listed Hulme. He has pro racing background, but is probably most well known for being The Stig in Top Gear for many years.

Ronnie Bucknum's son Jeff Bucknum is listed as a stunt driver in the credits.

[GT6]

So Ben Collins played the stig for many years, surely that should give him experience enough, some wooden actors get paid millions for worse performances

[deggis]

Originally Posted by GT6

So Ben Collins played the stig for many years, surely that should give him experience enough, some wooden actors get paid millions for worse performances

It is probably also a small extra / stunt driver role.

[GT6]

Well i remember Gran Prix the movie and the roles in the film played by the drivers at the time, Graham Hill had a reasonable part in that.

[Maggo]

Alex Gurney plays Dan Gurney

[GT6]

very appropriate i must say

[deggis]

***An exclusive 10-minute screening preview of the upcoming “Ford v Ferrari” film will premiere in two Le Mans theaters on Friday. The footage will be screed at 7:15 and 8 p.m. at Pathe Le Mans and CGR Saint Saturnin, with free entry coupons now available at both box offices.

https://sportscar365.com/features/le...ay-notebook-5/

[GT6]

so is that at the GBW in the school hall or somewhere else

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by Maggo

Alex Gurney plays Dan Gurney

Just like the late Sean Edwards played his dad in Rush

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by GT6

so is that at the GBW in the school hall or somewhere else

No, the CGR cinema.

[Inigo Montoya]

I saw it last night at its premiere for the Toronto International Film Festival and I couldn't wait for it to be over. Its crap. Leave it to Disney to make a villian of Enzo Ferrari.

Pretty cool seeing those CGI'd GT40's and all the Cobras though.

[deggis]

https://rottentomatoes.com/m/ford_v_ferrari

Some critics' reviews.

[canaglia]

Still think name of the movie is wrong, considering the film is mostly about the ford gt than ferrari/ford rivalry. Wonder if in the film will be ever specified that 1966 ford gt was a british car and not american....

[Inigo Montoya]

Originally Posted by canaglia

Still think name of the movie is wrong, considering the film is mostly about the ford gt than ferrari/ford rivalry. Wonder if in the film will be ever specified that 1966 ford gt was a british car and not american....

Nope. Raa raa USA! It's Disney.

I disagree with the critics. Shelby is made to look like a Dunce by Matt Damon. Iacocca is portrayed as spineless. Ferrari as the Devil. There is a made up Ford executive villian as well. There is a silly side story with Miles and his son. But like I said... Lots of pretty cars to watch.

[carbsmith]

Originally Posted by deggis

https://rottentomatoes.com/m/ford_v_ferrari

Some critics' reviews.

then the real deal in the storied 24 Hours of Le Mans in Paris

zooms in on the relationship between racer-turned-designer Caroll Shelby (Matt Damon) and single-minded driver Ken Miles (Christian Bale) as they try to build a Le Mans-ready Mustang

I'm going to let slide reviews repeating the historical inaccuracies that are more or less part of the plotline of the movie but WEW

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by carbsmith

I'm going to let slide reviews repeating the historical inaccuracies that are more or less part of the plotline of the movie but WEW

Yeah, some of the reviews seem like they may not have actually watched the movie. Saw it said Ford and racing so assumed things. It is definitely leaning more toward Ford/Disney mutual stroking than quality show in non-"professional" reviews sadly

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by deggis

https://rottentomatoes.com/m/ford_v_ferrari

Some critics' reviews.

It's a perfectly cromulent studio entertainment,

WTF?

What is wrong with the word 'adequate'? Not highbrow enough?

Originally Posted by Inigo Montoya

I saw it last night at its premiere for the Toronto International Film Festival and I couldn't wait for it to be over. Its crap. Leave it to Disney to make a villian of Enzo Ferrari.

Pretty cool seeing those CGI'd GT40's and all the Cobras though.

Not wishing to sound rude mate, but that's a pretty dismissive review. Was it just crap because of Ferrari's villainisation?

[Inigo Montoya]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

It's a perfectly cromulent studio entertainment,

WTF?

What is wrong with the word 'adequate'? Not highbrow enough?



Not wishing to sound rude mate, but that's a pretty dismissive review. Was it just crap because of Ferrari's villainisation?

It was a bit dismissive, sorry. I listed my problems with it in a later post. Go and see it for yourself and judge! Different strokes for different folks.

[Aysedasi]

I certainly will!

[Nick Woodbury]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3h9Z89U9ZA

20th Century FOX released trailer #2 for the upcoming movie. It already has nearly 5 million views after just two days. Despite the inevitable hollywood "USA vs. the bad guys" nonsense that will undoubtedly infest the film, the thing that is for certain is this will appeal and raise awareness to the masses who are otherwise ignorant to Le Mans and motorsport. Quite frankly I'd rather accept that avenue as opposed to a film that appeals directly to the niche motorsport culture only for it to flop at the outset because John Doe and Mary Sue couldn't relate to it ala Steve McQueen's Le Mans.