UK for '08? - Page 2

Rob29 · 30 May 2007, 07:19 (Ref:1924386)

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Originally Posted by JamesRamone

Does anyone remember an article in autosport, maybe a good year or so ago now, talking about the redevelopment of one of the UK tracks with a look to maybe attracting something like Champ cars or World touring cars. It may have been Snetterton as im sure Jonathan Palmer had something to do with it

I hardly think Snetterton could attract a crowd for anything? To far from civilization-except maybe for BTCC- competitors outnumber spectators

Even when they had F1 in the 60s I seem to remember room to move around...
Only circuit I recall plans to redevelop is Anglesey which reopened last weekend. For champcar to be a success it needs street circuits-that would need an Act of Parliament in England-maybe Belfast?

JohnSSC · 30 May 2007, 09:24 (Ref:1924450)

Just calling it as I see it Norman. I don't know TG, have never spoken to him and do not need him to do my thinking (such as it is) for me...

That said, imho, positing that CC (or the IRL, for that matter) is any threat to F1 is just nonsensical. There is not a shred of empirical data that could support it.

Sadly for CC, the gate at the Formula Ford Festival will likely be higher than that for any of the CC races...

georgeboi999 · 30 May 2007, 14:04 (Ref:1924661)

Unless they have the CC and the Forumla Ford Festival on the same weekend.

courageous · 1 Jun 2007, 11:47 (Ref:1926169)

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Originally Posted by Rob29

For champcar to be a success it needs street circuits-that would need an Act of Parliament in England-maybe Belfast?

The act that allowed the Birmingham superprix is still on the books...

duke_toaster · 1 Jun 2007, 13:18 (Ref:1926244)

What about Donington? Rockingham road course has the facilities (with a small number of tweaks, track widening and so-on it could hold F1) but does it have the licence?

mountainstar · 1 Jun 2007, 20:30 (Ref:1926503)

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Originally Posted by courageous

The act that allowed the Birmingham superprix is still on the books...

That's what I would like to see. It would be something different than the usual.

duke_toaster · 1 Jun 2007, 22:03 (Ref:1926570)

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

That's what I would like to see. It would be something different than the usual.

I agree. The council house residents and bunnyf***ers cancelling the race after the teams have travelled over from the US would be be something really different for CCWS

nycuk · 29 Jun 2007, 12:06 (Ref:1949644)

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Originally Posted by Rob29

I think IRL would do better there? Champcar have given up on ovals.Unfortunately American series have a poor history in UK.Brands & Silverstone 1978,Rockinham 2001,Brands2003? never repeated-mostly due to poor crowds I believe?

Poor crowds? Very possibly - if a meeting isn't commercially viable it ain't gonna happen is it? But that isn't helped by high ticket prices - Rockingham in particular had very expensive tickets considering they were trying to get bums on seats. Yes, the hardcore will pay to get in but persuading the more casual fans to part with money may prove more difficult...

Rob29 · 29 Jun 2007, 16:24 (Ref:1949845)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

I agree. The council house residents and bunnyf***ers cancelling the race after the teams have travelled over from the US would be be something really different for CCWS

Not sure what this was a reply to? Act of Parliament which allowed the Birmingham Superprix AFAIK appplied only to that event and was for a 5 year contract-plans for a longer circuit,and F1 never procceded.

duke_toaster · 29 Jun 2007, 16:36 (Ref:1949855)

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Originally Posted by Rob29

Not sure what this was a reply to? Act of Parliament which allowed the Birmingham Superprix AFAIK appplied only to that event and was for a 5 year contract-plans for a longer circuit,and F1 never procceded.

Unfortuatly it would be made impossible by the greenies who spring out of the woodwork when motorsport is mentioned. The sort that limit Thruxton to 12 days of racing a year and would complain about any new track built.

CDK 7 · 2 Jul 2007, 19:25 (Ref:1952718)

donington or brands good for me

duke_toaster · 2 Jul 2007, 20:17 (Ref:1952771)

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Originally Posted by CDK 7

donington or brands good for me

Nah, they've got enough major events, if CCWS went to the UK they would go somewhere different. I'd love to see the Birmingham Superprix brought back

nickyf1 · 4 Jul 2007, 21:01 (Ref:1954577)

Knockhill doesnt have any major events

seriously, birmingham would be brilliant, but the problem with the UK for street circuits is our damned traffic islands

duke_toaster · 4 Jul 2007, 21:05 (Ref:1954580)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

Knockhill doesnt have any major events

Knockhill is probably the worst location for a circuit in the UK - right in the middle of nowhere. Still a great track. In addition, unfortunatly I don't think anything other than a street circuit in Glasgow would be viable for Scotland.

Resurrecting the Birmingham Super Prix would be a good idea, with Bernie's onslaught on Silverstone it could be more F1 than ChampCar.

OVERSTEER · 4 Jul 2007, 23:49 (Ref:1954724)

Earlier this year I did plan to go to Zolder because it tied in with a week long shut down period at the place where I work, but due to the change date, more than likely due to the FIA deciding the date was too close to the Belgian GP, I can't go, bloody FIA, THERE'S MORE TO MOTORSPORT THAN F1, And I like F1!!

gwar · 5 Jul 2007, 11:49 (Ref:1955083)

Donnington has to be the best, good viewing, lots of overtaking places,

Frankie Francis · 5 Jul 2007, 15:59 (Ref:1955309)

id like them to runa ll races here.

indycool · 5 Jul 2007, 16:13 (Ref:1955327)

The travel expenses for an overseas trip, however a deal is structured, is going to cost somebody and like all sanctioning bodies, CC would require the promoter to pay. These expenses raise the "nut" to break even, so the promoter must make it on drawing a lot of people at high ticket prices or a ton of people at lower ticket prices.

Personally, I'd think anyone in Europe would be watching to see how this year's deal over there goes before signing on any dotted line.

JohnSSC · 5 Jul 2007, 23:41 (Ref:1955691)

To be fair, the Mt Tremblant race was not heavily promoted according to Mr Phillips at Speed TV and the spectator areas are still underdeveloped at Tremblant.

I did watch the 2nd half of the Tremblant race and thought it was funny that one of commercials was for this week's IRL race to be televised on ABC.

On topic, I think it is premature to speculate about CC coming to a local track near one of our posters until after the Euro races have been held and promoters get a feel for what kind of gate they might expect.

georgeboi999 · 6 Jul 2007, 08:53 (Ref:1955876)

Thruxton is a good track. They just need to improve the safety of the track.

norman-normal · 3 Aug 2007, 19:28 (Ref:1980084)

This summer's races in Europe may indicate a much better reception of Champ Car in the UK, due to Bernie's arrogant stewardship of F-1.

Dutton · 3 Aug 2007, 19:40 (Ref:1980097)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Knockhill is probably the worst location for a circuit in the UK - right in the middle of nowhere.

By which you mean right in the middle of the Central Belt (major urban concentration of Scotland). It is in the middle of nowhere in the grand scheme, though, yes.

Brands or Oultan would be idealistic thoughts disregarding any contradictory realities.

In the world of realities, wouldn't Silverstone be a pretty logical choice? Why not run as a support to F1 (or is that not viable?)?

indycool · 3 Aug 2007, 20:29 (Ref:1980115)

http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/news/03-08-07_10

JohnSSC · 4 Aug 2007, 03:11 (Ref:1980253)

With all of the open wheel series being presented in the UK and Europe, the competition for fans has much more to do with the racing rather than any beauty contest regarding Bernie Ecclestone...not to mention sports cars, touring cars, DTM...

CC may be a curiosity and "something different." I doubt that race fans are thinking: "I just don't like that Bernie Ecclestone. I will go to the CC race as a protest to his arrogant stewardship of F1."

Dutton · 4 Aug 2007, 03:18 (Ref:1980256)

Ah, but it was really quite popular a few years ago.

If CC could somehow sorts itself out, then it would have a market in the UK (imo).

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