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Old 21 Dec 2004, 14:32 (Ref:1185031)   #26
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I reckon a conservative budget from my Clio V6 days:

8 weekends, 16 races

8 tyres/weekend Euro 3000
Insurance/wk Euro 3000
Team costs Euro 3000
Car depreciation Euro 2500 (assuming Euro 60,000 over 3 years/ 24 weekends)
Parts/damage Euro 1500
Engine/Gearbox Euro 9000/yr rebuilds = Euro 1125/weekend

Which comes to 14,125 per weekend = Euro 113,000 which isnt so far from your estimate. But doesn't allow for any testing/unforseen breakages. And I'm told by a man who should know that the engine/gearbox costs could be far far higher.

And the Donington round isn't going to attract more than about 5000 people on previous form... which sadly isn't attractive for sponsors.

Please don't get me wrong, I'd love to race in it, and for it to be a huge commercial success but Euro 100,000 will buy a seat in lot of bigger series at the moment and it's going to be a difficult sell to sponsors.

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Old 4 Jan 2005, 12:17 (Ref:1192790)   #27
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Got some more details on this now.
Car is Euro 90k + Tax... entries Euro 10k, but prize money's pretty good.
Tyres are 2.5 sets per weekend. No testing outside of the 2 official tests (which is ideal) which both take place at Ricard I think. 2 days each, 1 set of tyres/day.
Some great testing available on the Friday of each race weekend. So they've made the package look pretty good...
Still going to be a bit expensive and tough to sell to UK sponsors, but the track map of Bilbao looks awesome! And I've spoken t someone who's driven the car and he says it's absolutely fantastic. Super quick and responsive.
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Old 4 Jan 2005, 12:58 (Ref:1192824)   #28
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Thanks for those interesting infos.
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Old 4 Jan 2005, 13:31 (Ref:1192835)   #29
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Will they have a Eurosport TV deal now they they've abandoned the LG SRW events?
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Will they have a Eurosport TV deal now they they've abandoned the LG SRW events?
Renault World Series will have resumes the races day, i don´t kow if it will happen with Megane Trophy.
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Old 4 Jan 2005, 14:46 (Ref:1192882)   #31
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No details on that officially yet, but I'd imagine they have something lined up...
Assuming the dealers are giving away the tickets again, could be a decent crowd package as well...
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Old 20 Jan 2005, 14:34 (Ref:1205676)   #32
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Auto hebdo Sport reports that 25 cars are being built and there are 15 sold.
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Old 1 Feb 2005, 19:26 (Ref:1214890)   #33
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Auto hebdo Sport reports that 25 cars are being built and there are 15 sold.
Have you got a transcript of that article.

I am looking for all sorts of infos of this cup because a friend
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Renaud Kuppens signed with Thierry Boutsen Racing who shall enter the cup with 2 cars.

http://www.renaudkuppens.be

for more info a pdf http://www.renaudkuppens.be/pdf/mt.pdf think RickP got some info on the cup from this file
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Old 1 Feb 2005, 19:32 (Ref:1214897)   #34
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I cant wait. Quicker than a porsche GT3 but a touring car
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Old 1 Feb 2005, 19:37 (Ref:1214904)   #35
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Former Renault Clio V6 and ETCC team Oregon have plans to race in this new Cup: http://www.racingworld.it/etcc/notiz...?idtitolo=0879
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These are some of the meanest looking race cars that I have seen.

Hopefully they will make for top quality racing!

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Yup, I have that file too guys... trying to organise to get down to a Renault test, but still looking a little expensive at the moment to do the series compared to say Le Mans and the LMES in a real GT....
Interested if anyone has any clues what the European teams are charging for this?
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Old 1 Feb 2005, 22:57 (Ref:1215051)   #38
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Yup, I have that file too guys... trying to organise to get down to a Renault test, but still looking a little expensive at the moment to do the series compared to say Le Mans and the LMES in a real GT....
Interested if anyone has any clues what the European teams are charging for this?
think around 200.000 € all incl.
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Old 1 Feb 2005, 23:34 (Ref:1215069)   #39
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Have you got a transcript of that article.

I am looking for all sorts of infos of this cup because a friend
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Updated info: Jean Paul Mari (Renault Sport Technologies) says this week that there are 20 cars sold in this moment, with 5 more to sell. Teams from Germany, France, Italy and Spain are trying to buy the last cars.

Meganes are being built in Dieppe already, and every team will receive a first car in February.
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Interested if anyone has any clues what the European teams are charging for this?
Well, I know Oregon (like Fire´s source says), TBR (according Vertigo) and some more: time ago there was a rumour about Delahaye Racing but I didn´t hear more. Stephen Lemeret (FIA GT driver) was named too for this championship.
Spanish teams: Epsilon-Euskadi will have three cars, drivers could be Alfredo Mostajo, Antonio Aristi and David Izaguirre. Team ElÃ*as will have two cars for Marc Carol and Luis Miguel Reyes. And the last one could be Porfesa (former WS team) with two cars, one for Santi Porteiro Jr.

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200,000 Euros seems like a lot if you consider that you can do Le Mans and 5 rounds of the LMES for Euro150,000 quite easily...
Renaults' target budget was 100,000 Euros, which seems more realistic, but clearly they've had a huge uptake of interest if they've sold 20 cars already...
Not heard any interest from British teams at all... shame.
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200,000 Euros seems like a lot if you consider that you can do Le Mans and 5 rounds of the LMES for Euro150,000 quite easily...
Renaults' target budget was 100,000 Euros, which seems more realistic, but clearly they've had a huge uptake of interest if they've sold 20 cars already...
Not heard any interest from British teams at all... shame.
200.000 is what I read, but 100.000 looks indeed more realistic. I probably was a bit drunk that night when I red the news :-)

20cars sold looks very good indeed !
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The Front takes my interest. the Back loses it. Ever since the new Megane has come out, I have hated the back end. Even with the amusing TV ad and tune. Though I must admit it does not look quite as bad on this coupe' as the standard models.
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www.italiaracing.net informs there are teams from ten countries: Spain, Holland, Belgium, Italy, Andorra, Portugal, France, Germany, Austria and Czech Republic.
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It sounds like this will be a success. I still prefer the look of the Clios. So, is it a European championship? Based on teams from countries?
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According www.autosport.nl there are 38 (!) entries.

Dutch team Equipe Verschuur will enter 2 cars for drivers Frans Verschuur and Bernard ten Brinke.

Some other drivers in this Megane Cup are Frenchman Jean Christophe Ravier (former Nissan World Series driver), Belgian driver Jan Heylen (former F3000 and German F3 driver) and Frenchman Simon Abadie.
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Old 7 Mar 2005, 14:42 (Ref:1245661)   #49
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Cripes... I didn't think they were building that many cars... heard 28-30... Good for Renault. This is great news.
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1 Team Elias S TBA
2 Team Elias S TBA
3 Team Lompech Sport F Frédéric Gabillon F
4 Team Lompech Sport F Sébastien Dhouailly F
5 Iris Racing CH Marc Benz CH
6 Thierry Boutsen Racing B Renaud Kuppens B
7 Thierry Boutsen Racing B TBA
8 Oregon Team I TBA
9 Oregon Team I TBA
10 Racing For Belgium B Michel Heydens B
11 Racing For Belgium B Jan Heylen B
12 Racing For Belgium B Wim Coekleberg B
14 Equipe Verschuur NL Bernard Ten Brinke NL
15 Equipe Verschuur NL Franz Veschuur NL
16 Auto Janak CZ Jiri Janak CZ
17 TP Compétition F TBA F
18 TP Compétition F TBA F
19 TP Compétition F TBA D
20 TP Compétition F Philippe Mace F
21 Mobil Global Concept AND Franck Arrigoni F
22 Pouchelon Racing F Christophe Lefranc F
23 Pouchelon Racing F Ludovic Badey F
24 Porfesa Competicion S Santiago Porteiro S
25 Tech 1 Racing F Simon Abadie F
26 Tech 1 Racing F Mike Parisy F
27 Epsilon Euskadi S Jean-Christophe Ravier F
28 Epsilon Euskadi S TBA
29 Energy Racing F Pascal Ballay F
30 Senn Motorsport A Andrea Mayerl A
31 Senn Motorsport A Oliver Freymuth D
32 TBA S Rafael Zaga S
33 Hervas S TBA
34 Saturn Motosport S TBA
35 Saturn Motosport S TBA
36 ESP Racing F Jean-Paul Coppens F
37 TBA F TBA F
38 TBA GB TBA GB
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