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20 Sep 2006, 16:47 (Ref:1714814) | #26 | ||
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Allen, the car Blanchet drove at Mallory in July 81 was definitely the Paine car, entered by 'Paine Beauty Products' for Norman Paine himself. Mike B quallied it well down, behind Byman's Lola, and dropped out near the end, having run nearly last all race. Paine non-started it at Brands in late Aug 81.
Only guessing it was ex-Rackham, but the locality of Paine/Rackham suggests it may well have been. OT, but also in that Mallory race 2 Ehrlichs were entered, and Malcolm Hull in a 'March 792', which I'm certain it wasn't. |
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20 Sep 2006, 20:37 (Ref:1715005) | #27 | ||
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I went to have a look in Autosport for that Mallory libre and although I couldn't find it, I did spot Paine turning up to Lydden 5 Jul in his "newly-acquired ex-Rackham/ex-Mercer" B42. As usual, Dan's guess is spot on.
But - one step forwards, two steps back - I spotted both McPherson and Bob Fearnley in B42s in a race at Aintree 1 Aug. Fernley was a partner of Howlings so I'd have bet he had 05 but we have McPherson in 05 above. Incidentally, Gibson's car was still in ICI livery first time out so I'd say 08 is better than 'maybe'. Allen |
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21 Sep 2006, 09:22 (Ref:1715363) | #28 | ||
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Allen, the Mallory race I referred to was the British Atlantic race on July 17-ish. Relatively good field for that race, maybe 'cos it was televised on ATV.
I'm also confident in Gibsob for 08. |
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21 Sep 2006, 09:47 (Ref:1715376) | #29 | ||
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I found it! 12 July. Chris doesn't have this one listed on his programme 'wants' so a scan of the entry list would be most appreciated.
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21 Sep 2006, 10:40 (Ref:1715421) | #30 | ||
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I've looked at Autosport for Dean and Robinson's B42s and it's a hopeless muddle. Maybe somebody could go through MN and see what they say.
Late 1978 Dean in "B40" at Cadwell Park 24 Sep Robinson in B42 at Croft 22 Oct 1979 Zolder 1 Apr: Dean B42, Robinson B42 (no numbers given) Oulton 13 Apr: Dean B42, Robinson B42 (no numbers given) Brands 15 Apr: Dean B42, Robinson B42 (no numbers given) Croft 23 Apr: Robinson (can't find report in AS) Mallory 29 Apr (7 May?!): Dean B42, Robinson B42 (no numbers given) Croft 13 May: Robinson B42 Snetterton 20 May: Robinson B42 (no numbers given) Cadwell Park 20 May: Dean B42 Zandvoort 4 Jun: Robinson B42/17 Donington 24 Jun: Dean B42/19, Robinson B42/17 Oulton 30 Jun: Dean B42/19, Robinson B42/17 Croft 1 Jul: Robinson B42 Cadwell Park 7 Jul: Robinson B42 Nogaro 8 Jul: Dean B42/19 Mallory 29 Jul: Robinson B42/19 (yes, 19) Brands 26 Aug: Robinson B42/19 (yes, 19) Thruxton 5 Sep: Robinson B42/05 (spare car instead of his usual 19) Snetterton 23 Sep: Robinson B42/17 (!) Silverstone 7 Oct: Robinson raced B48 but had T-car B42/19 (eek!) Croft 21 Oct: Robinson B48, Dean B42 1980 Croft 3 Mar: Robinson B42 Croft 23 Mar: Dean B42 Oulton Park 4 Apr: Robinson B48, Dean B42/17 Brands 7 Apr: Robinson B48, Dean B42/17 Silverstone 20 Apr: Robinson B42 (B48 T-car), Dean B42/17 Mallory 5 May: Robinson B42/19 (B48 T-car), Dean B42/17 Thruxton 26 May: Robinson B42/19 Croft 15 Jun: Robinson B48 Monza 29 Jun: Robinson B42/17 (!) Croft 29 Jun: Dean B42 (so 19 then!) Mallory 27 Jul: Robinson B48 Aintree 2 Aug: Dean B42 Croft 3 Aug: Dean B42 Snetterton 10 Aug: Robinson B48 Brands 25 Aug: Robinson B48 Thruxton 7 Sep: Robinson B48 Croft 7 Sep: Dean B42 Oulton 21 Sep: Robinson B48 Croft 21 Sep: Dean B42 Silverstone 5 Oct: Robinson B42/17 (B48 T-car) Croft 5 Oct: Dean B42 (so B42/19 then) Aintree 11 Oct: Dean B42 Croft 19 Oct: Robinson B42 These observations may all be correct but MN would help. Maybe Alan Brown was at one of these races and noted a chassis number? Maybe Jeremy was? Come to think of it, maybe I was... Allen |
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21 Sep 2006, 11:32 (Ref:1715449) | #31 | ||
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The ownership of the Dean/Robinson cars has always been a mystery to me. I assumed, probably wrongly, that Brian R owned all 3, ie -05,-17,-19, and that Dean 'hired' a car from him.
Robinson debuted one of them late 78, at an October Donington Libre race. He and Dean then raced 2 of them thru' 79 in Aurora and Libre. He got the B48, -08, late in 79, and raced it at the Silverstone October Aurora race. Into 80, Dean used one of the B42s, Robinson varied between the 42 and 48- though by then the 48 looked visually similar to the 42, so very confusing ! Did either of them use -05 in 79 or 80? Howlings used the latter into 1980, it was then fitted with some v amateur sidepods, I assume he'd bought it from Robinson over the 79-80 winter. |
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10 Oct 2006, 17:46 (Ref:1734327) | #32 | |
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B42-78-16
Chassis 16 has been with me since I bought it from Bob Juggins in 1990.
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10 Oct 2006, 17:58 (Ref:1734337) | #33 | ||
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Welcome!
That's the Warren Booth/Jim Evans car isn't it? Do you know where it was between Evans and Juggins? Allen |
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12 Oct 2006, 11:49 (Ref:1736099) | #34 | ||
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Intriguing cks.eps. Dare we ask who and where you are ??
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12 Oct 2006, 12:19 (Ref:1736145) | #35 | |
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I believe the car was raced in Aurora by Tony Dean winning the F2 division.
Bob bought the car in 86 running as Abbey Farm Racing.He competed in 88 in the Madras GP winning the 1600 class. Actually its for sale. |
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12 Oct 2006, 15:37 (Ref:1736325) | #36 | |||
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14 Oct 2006, 10:34 (Ref:1737662) | #37 | |
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chassis 16 is for sale at £17k "restored" in 1990 never used
i would swap it for a westfield!! |
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15 Oct 2006, 12:01 (Ref:1738334) | #38 | |
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B42
As this was my first 10/10 post I am now not sure whether to spend any more time here having the p*ss taken.I first raced a Chevron in 79 and have more info than you can believe.
Any one else interested?? |
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15 Oct 2006, 12:02 (Ref:1738336) | #39 | |
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B42
I meant first race was 69...
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15 Oct 2006, 16:15 (Ref:1738508) | #40 | ||
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Dear cks.eps
Please ignore drifty - he's not particularly up-to-date on racing cars values. I think Dan and I were perfectly polite in our responses to you so just pretend drifty's not here. We'd be interested in hearing more about your B42. Allen |
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15 Oct 2006, 16:54 (Ref:1738534) | #41 | |
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B42 16
Thanks for that.
I bought no.16 from Bob Juggins in 90.He raced it in late 80s including Madras GP.according to him it was the ex Dean car but now you have told me differently. Its very original even down to the trim.I bought it intending to replace my 712 but finished up going backwards to my Lotus 21. The bodyworkwas new but I also have spare top sections and noses.There are 5 front and 4 rear wheels. Hewland FG box and all suspension and brakes are complete. Hope that helps. By the way I now own all the archives of the Chevron Company,ie jigs tools moulds drawings and records. |
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29 Oct 2006, 14:17 (Ref:1752766) | #42 | |
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this car was on Ebay sold before end of auction for around £13-14 k ?
likely to surface at a race next year?? |
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6 Nov 2006, 11:42 (Ref:1758929) | #43 | |||
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I've just spoken to Warren Booth himself, who thinks the car was sold to someone up North, but NOT Jim Evans. Given that Warren is alive and well in Blackburn, still autotrading, I think he meant someone in the NorthEast, where Jim E was/is. However as its over 25 years ago, and Warren is nearly 70 I think, and is not especially interested in these minutiae, I wonder whether he's a little confused !!! |
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6 Nov 2006, 11:53 (Ref:1758934) | #44 | ||
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Was Evans' B42 described as ex-Booth? I haven't got to 1980 libre yet. Allen |
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6 Nov 2006, 11:58 (Ref:1758939) | #45 | |
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sadly its possible that these fine gentlemen forget who they sold the cars to and if they are out of racing they loose track of names events etc
i have this with my father when i remind him he raced this car at that track and beat so n so it will come to us all eventually some of us may depart this world when we can still pee by ourselves others will hang around wearing "european" pants Its handy that events are recorded in AS MN mags that "historians" can work from those and ask others who were around at the time racing or kept their own notes I am reminded of the Horst 7 forms of knowledge i was taught at school History= reasoning eventually we will get the answers in the correct order with the aid of Allen and his ORC dotcom site |
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6 Nov 2006, 13:12 (Ref:1758993) | #46 | ||
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Don't think the Evans car is ever described as ex Booth, at least not in my notes. But I think that AS gives the chassis number for Booth's car at an Aurora or British F2 meeting, and then f/s by Jim Evans with chassis no AS 27.9.79 p. 62, but guess went unsold as he uses B42 in 1980. Bob Juggins was racing in FF until 1982 so I guess he didn't buy it then. Chris |
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6 Nov 2006, 13:35 (Ref:1759013) | #47 | ||
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When/where did Evans use the B42 Chris? I presume Libre sometime as he didn't get into Aurora did he?
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21 Dec 2006, 23:55 (Ref:1797245) | #48 | ||
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Chevron B 42 History Enquiry
Good evening all, I`m trying to fill in the gap in chassis 42-78-06 from 1979 to 1986, my first post so please forgive me if I`ve posted incorrectly, regards Roger
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22 Dec 2006, 00:48 (Ref:1797265) | #49 | ||
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Welcome Roger
Don't worry, John will move these posts onto the B42 thread when he spots this one. (Now done! -JT) We have little on this car so far - just Opert for Hayje in 1978 - but it may be one of our mystery cars. Do you have anything on it after Hayje and before 1979? Also, can you tell us what it did after 1986? Let's see if that connects up with something. Allen Last edited by John Turner; 22 Dec 2006 at 10:17. |
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22 Dec 2006, 22:31 (Ref:1797989) | #50 | ||
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Thanks Allen I`ve owned this chassis since `86 used for speed hillclimbs and sprints until `94 with Rover V8, (Replaced Brabham BT35X-2 sad to hear what happened to that one) just seems to have vanished between end of 78 and 86, I have Autosports of that period but not a lot of luck, will have to re read them!! Many thanks Roger.
PS My congratulations to the operators of this forum, superb. |
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