|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
28 Mar 2016, 14:54 (Ref:3628051) | #26 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,002
|
Coincidentally, Mr West is the same West behind the old McLaren F1 sponsorship
|
|
|
28 Mar 2016, 15:01 (Ref:3628054) | #27 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,336
|
As someone who had this series essentially written off after last season, I am very surprised to see this kind of resurgence. GT-racing in Europe as a whole seems to be on the up, with the lone puzzling exception on France.
|
||
__________________
Ceterum censeo GTE-Am esse delendam. |
28 Mar 2016, 16:27 (Ref:3628083) | #28 | |
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,744
|
IGTO seems to fluctuate between horrid and solid grids more than the others.
|
|
|
28 Mar 2016, 17:31 (Ref:3628100) | #29 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,482
|
Is there a livestream available for the races?
|
|
|
28 Mar 2016, 17:35 (Ref:3628102) | #30 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 8,611
|
|||
__________________
Somebody asked if the McLaren F1 was going to be like the Ferrari F40, Gordon Murray replied, "I don't think so, there's no one at McLaren who can weld that badly." |
28 Mar 2016, 19:29 (Ref:3628144) | #31 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,002
|
||
|
28 Mar 2016, 21:49 (Ref:3628212) | #32 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,482
|
Cool, thx. Good to see things being on the rise again, support package looks really strong too!
|
|
|
29 Mar 2016, 03:12 (Ref:3628254) | #33 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,264
|
He's a bit young for that......Alex West is the guy who owns this P1 GTR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl1YJlTi4ac Haven't found what he actually does but I'm quite sure he isn't part of the West brand. IIRC it was Thomas Bscher that brought the West sponsorship to the F1 GTRs and possibly the deal with the F1 team (*speculation*). |
||
__________________
MBL - SpeedyMouse Race House |
29 Mar 2016, 23:34 (Ref:3628584) | #34 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,759
|
Correct. Alexander West, the founding partner of Blue Pool Capital Ltd., a Hong Kong-based hedge fund. And before that...he worked with Investor AB, an investment vehicle controlled by the Wallenberg family in Sweden.
|
||
|
30 Mar 2016, 10:08 (Ref:3628663) | #35 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,002
|
Quote:
In that case I may be wrong. His personal McLaren does carry the same colour scheme and West logo though so must be some connection |
||
|
30 Mar 2016, 11:13 (Ref:3628671) | #36 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,264
|
He's quite a fan of that livery and the name is the same as his surname
|
||
__________________
MBL - SpeedyMouse Race House |
30 Mar 2016, 16:11 (Ref:3628736) | #37 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 6,522
|
Over the past few years IGTO has been a benefactor/victim of the shifting European GT3 landscape, apparently powerless to influence events that directly impact their grids. Hopefully this relatively strong entry list is a sign that they are able to hold on to a strong core of teams for the foreseeable future.
|
||
__________________
BoP is democracy for racing. |
30 Mar 2016, 16:51 (Ref:3628762) | #38 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,955
|
So how "open" is GT open nowadays. What I liked about the series in the early part of the decade was the mix of GTE and GT3 cars. You can see how they compared to each other without significant BoP's. In IMSA for example GTD is full GT3 now but you gotta to think they could be faster if they were not on those Conti tires.
The lack of technical BoP often made GT Open cars faster than the SRO cars when they share the same track during a year. So yeah where are the GTE cars in GT Open? Looks like just another GT3 series at this point. We can get that anywhere. This series needs to stand out more and get back to what made it good. Make it open. Let all GTE cars in too. (If there are any takers) |
|
|
30 Mar 2016, 18:23 (Ref:3628797) | #39 | |
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,744
|
||
|
30 Mar 2016, 19:07 (Ref:3628825) | #40 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 6,522
|
You could probably count them on a mutilated hand. The loss of diversity is never pleasant, but there's a reason IGTO made the switch.
|
||
__________________
BoP is democracy for racing. |
30 Mar 2016, 19:24 (Ref:3628831) | #41 | |
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,744
|
Actually, it's entirely IGTO's own fault. They had 9 GT2 cars in the last race with dedicated (and speeded up) SGT class reserved for them, you know Barcelona 2013. But then the following year they decided to knee for the crybabys of GT3s, and have them in that same class too, even though there still was additional dedicated GT3 class in GTS. As if the GT3s couldn't win in every GT series overall already. GT2 numbers started immediately dropping. So ultimately, running GT2 car became pointless when you could just well run some ordinary stock GT3 and win overall with that. Later on they then banned GT2s altogether.
|
|
|
30 Mar 2016, 20:25 (Ref:3628852) | #42 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,002
|
Quote:
Ultimately, GT2 was becoming outdated and IGTO wanted to stay modern, and not look like a series for old spec cars like Supercar Challenge. Just a case of fashionability and marketing value |
||
|
30 Mar 2016, 20:31 (Ref:3628855) | #43 | |
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,744
|
How exactly were things like Ferrari 458 GTE outdated by 2013-2014???
|
|
|
30 Mar 2016, 21:35 (Ref:3628872) | #44 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,955
|
Seems hypocritical. No more "open" isnt it. They need to do something to stand out, which is what they used to have. Not now. Today they are a poor mans' Euro GT3 series a shadow of SRO.
|
|
|
21 Apr 2016, 15:15 (Ref:3635426) | #45 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,002
|
Kevin Estre is supposedly back in a McLaren for this weekends GT Open in one of the Garage 59 cars. Seems to not be so busy at Porsche...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
|
|
21 Apr 2016, 20:10 (Ref:3635512) | #46 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 8,611
|
|||
__________________
Somebody asked if the McLaren F1 was going to be like the Ferrari F40, Gordon Murray replied, "I don't think so, there's no one at McLaren who can weld that badly." |
21 Apr 2016, 21:08 (Ref:3635527) | #47 | ||
Racer
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 337
|
|||
|
22 Apr 2016, 07:52 (Ref:3635612) | #48 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,010
|
|||
|
22 Apr 2016, 11:54 (Ref:3635659) | #49 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,336
|
Well... seems like my doubts about the series' resurgence were somewhat justified: 14 starters in the first practice session:
http://gtopen.net/contenuti/files/20...penlibres1.pdf Top speeds are interesting, with the Radical 12kph faster than the next best car. Doesn't translate to very good laptimes, though and personally, I'd have expected the Radical to be low on power but high on downforce. |
||
__________________
Ceterum censeo GTE-Am esse delendam. |
22 Apr 2016, 14:51 (Ref:3635690) | #50 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,721
|
A pretty thin field, compared with Blancpain or British GT.
|
||
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
2016 ADAC GT Masters | Racing Harz | Sportscar & GT Racing | 153 | 6 Oct 2016 13:13 |
British GT 2016 | BertMk2 | Sportscar & GT Racing | 275 | 10 Aug 2016 07:02 |
2016 Euroformula Open season | Formulahistory | National & International Single Seaters | 26 | 1 Apr 2016 10:41 |
2016 American Open Wheel Series Thread | fieldodreams79 | Indycar Series | 15 | 2 Mar 2016 16:20 |