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Old 13 Nov 2019, 20:33 (Ref:3940470)   #26
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I wonder if when they say 2022 they might do selected races at the tail end of the 2021/22 season to get some racing miles under their belt. The 2023 thing is interesting, i wonder how Porsche and Audi are going to feel if Toyota or Peugeot win the centenary race..
They said 22/23 season. So they'll only miss one 24hrs under the new regs. They're continuing with the winter season so I assume Summer of 2022 is when we will see the car presented. I'm sure spy shots will reveal it before that though. Remember that Le Mans is the season finale, so unless they want to do that in the first year (which I don't think competitors will like) they'll have to wait.
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They said 22/23 season. So they'll only miss one 24hrs under the new regs. They're continuing with the winter season so I assume Summer of 2022 is when we will see the car presented. I'm sure spy shots will reveal it before that though. Remember that Le Mans is the season finale, so unless they want to do that in the first year (which I don't think competitors will like) they'll have to wait.
No they won't, they will miss LM 2021 and LM 2022 under new regs, so two. Then they will only be eligible for 2023 and 2024 LM until being outlawed for 2025 LM (maybe grandfathered for that single year but that's not the same), at least if ACO doesn't screw up the regulations again
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If peugoet did ask the ACO for two spots on the 2021 or 22 grid i can not see them being refused they are french and that is all they need.
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No they won't, they will miss LM 2021 and LM 2022 under new regs, so two. Then they will only be eligible for 2023 and 2024 LM until being outlawed for 2025 LM (maybe grandfathered for that single year but that's not the same), at least if ACO doesn't screw up the regulations again
You're right. I counted wrong That's the thing with these 'winter seasons'. Maybe the ACO will let them enter Spa and Le Mans in 2022, if the car is ready and the other competitors don't mind.
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With grids not looking top draw i think that is not a problem
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Potentially unfortunate for rally fans.

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That's the likely conclusion - one PSA group brand exits a world championship, another joins one. I hope Peugeot make a better fist of WEC than Citroen have of their most recent WRC foray - the C3 has been a terrible car.
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Jean-Eric Vergne and Antonio Felix Da Costa have both expressed interest in becoming part of Peugeot’s Hypercar lineup when it debuts in the 2022-23 FIA World Endurance Championship season.
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I wonder if Jose Maria Lopez will still be with Toyota or if he'll move to his old PSA group team? Toyota has an upcoming star Japanese driver in lmp2 right now by the name of Kenta Yamashita. I think he'll replace one of Toyota's drivers. My guesses right now are Buemi (Nissan's leading F-E driver) or Lopez.
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I would be surprised if Joest teamed up with Peugeot. I am thinking it is more likely that one of VAG's super car brands will show up with something:
- Bugatti
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well they have lots of names to choose from.
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Oreca probably already lined up to run a car, that's what I think. And by Oreca, I am thinking Rebellion in the same way that Oreca had a 4th one in addition to the 3 factory 908's.
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I wonder, with several years to go before the start of the programme if any drivers will start manoeuvring themselves into position for a race seat. I.e. looking to get into P2 / privateer P1

I imagine AMR will target a different set of drivers
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As far as AMR goes, I don't think that they'll move many current GT drivers to the LMP1 program. Especially as the GTE-Pro program is supposed to run concurrent to the LMP1 program.

For Peugeot, they do have a while to say the least. Certainly plenty of time to pruse the driver market from their own driver alliances and others who are up and coming pros looking at a LMP1 drive. Same also applies for AMR right now, too, though with much less time.
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I'm sure they can find enough decent drivers to help develop the programme. It's important to be in a top manufacturer car if they are to have a chance of winning every weekend, so it shouldn't be too hard to find drivers willing to help them
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Update on DSC, summarizing stories on Autohedbo & Le Maine.

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One other significant additional snippet from Auto Hebdo confirms that Peugeot are one of the manufacturers directly engaged with the development of the 2023/24 Regulations to introduce zero emissions Hydrogen-fuelled car to the FIA WEC and Le Mans 24 Hours.
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Does this go in the pug thread or the rebellion thread?
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Rebellion running those cars takes away a private entry. So whilst it's nice to see Rebellion step up, this is the same number of cars as before, but one set now relies on factory backing.

Dangerous game this.
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And how far from that rendering do we think the actual car will be? I never understand the early renders when they know that won't be accepted in that form. Never mind it's like they asked Elon Musk to pretend he knows what the public wants and build a "racecar."
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