[WTCC] Race 15 & 16 - Oschersleben (GER), 25/26 August 2007 - Page 2

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 10:07 (Ref:1996690)

Warm up

POS	NO	CL	DRIVER	NAT	CAR	TIME	LAPS	GAP	KPH
1	1		Andy PRIAULX	GBR	BMW 320si	1:36.453	10		137.94
2	5		Felix PORTEIRO	ESP	BMW 320si	1:36.492	9	0.039	137.89
3	2		Jorg MULLER	GER	BMW 320si	1:36.565	11	0.112	137.78
4	11		Gabriele TARQUINI	ITA	SEAT Leon	1:36.650	10	0.197	137.66
5	3		Augusto FARFUS	BRA	BMW 320si	1:36.669	10	0.216	137.64
6	40		Peter TERTING	GER	SEAT Leon	1:36.710	10	0.257	137.58
7	19	I	Roberto COLCIAGO	ITA	SEAT Leon	1:36.748	10	0.295	137.52
8	15		James THOMPSON	GBR	Alfa Romeo 156	1:36.779	10	0.326	137.48
9	18		Tiago MONTEIRO	POR	SEAT Leon	1:37.066	8	0.613	137.07
10	10		Michel JOURDAIN	MEX	SEAT Leon	1:37.073	9	0.620	137.06
11	31	I	Sergio HERNANDEZ	ESP	BMW 320si	1:37.075	10	0.622	137.06
12	26	I	Stefano D'ASTE	ITA	BMW 320si	1:37.093	10	0.640	137.04
13	8		Alain MENU	SUI	Chevrolet Lacetti	1:37.150	9	0.697	136.95
14	30	I	Luca RANGONI	ITA	BMW 320si	1:37.179	9	0.726	136.91
15	20		Tom CORONEL	NED	SEAT Leon	1:37.205	10	0.752	136.88
16	34	I	Massimiliano PEDALA	ITA	SEAT Leon	1:37.262	10	0.809	136.80
17	6		Robert HUFF	GBR	Chevrolet Lacetti	1:37.338	5	0.885	136.69
18	23	I	Pierre-Yves CORTHALS	BEL	SEAT Leon	1:37.345	9	0.892	136.68
19	16		Olivier TIELEMANS	NED	Alfa Romeo 156	1:37.350	10	0.897	136.67
20	9		Jordi GENE	ESP	SEAT Leon TDI	1:37.371	8	0.918	136.64
21	35	I	Timur SADREDINOV	RUS	SEAT Leon	1:37.674	9	1.221	136.22
22	22	I	Maurizio CERESOLI	ITA	SEAT Leon	1:38.155	10	1.702	135.55
23	7		Nicola LARINI	ITA	Chevrolet Lacetti	1:38.169	6	1.716	135.53
24	12		Yvan MULLER	FRA	SEAT Leon TDI	1:38.316	6	1.863	135.33
25	4		Alessandro ZANARDI	ITA	BMW 320si	1:55.742	2	19.289	114.95

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 10:08 (Ref:1996691)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdjones

Well that was an interesting first lap.

You mean expensive lap.

Corthals car is heavy damaged.

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 10:18 (Ref:1996695)

Come on Thompson!

Jimmy Magnusson · 26 Aug 2007, 10:39 (Ref:1996710)

What a fantastic race, and an even more fantastic overtaking by Muller on Tarquini.

Bramzel · 26 Aug 2007, 10:39 (Ref:1996711)

Jeez, what was Zanardi thinking? They should give him a heavy penalty for Race 2, or disqualify him or something. Idiot.

Nice race for the rest, shame they weren't able to overtake, but still a good show.

**touringlegend** · 26 Aug 2007, 10:43 (Ref:1996714)

Who said driving standards were better in the WTCC than BTCC .....

Fantastic drive from Yvan Muller and the TDi.

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 11:45 (Ref:1996734)

Race 1

POS	NO	CL	DRIVER	NAT	CAR	TIME	LAPS	GAP	KPH
1	12		Yvan MULLER	FRA	SEAT Leon TDI	27:57.209	16		126.58
2	11		Gabriele TARQUINI	ITA	SEAT Leon	27:57.655	16	0.446	126.55
3	15		James THOMPSON	GBR	Alfa Romeo 156	27:58.002	16	0.793	126.52
4	2		Jorg MULLER GER	BMW	320si	27:58.465	16	1.256	126.49
5	1		Andy PRIAULX	GBR	BMW 320si	27:58.689	16	1.480	126.47
6	9		Jordi GENE	ESP	SEAT Leon TDI	27:59.973	16	2.764	126.37
7	3		Augusto FARFUS	BRA	BMW 320si	28:00.225	16	3.016	126.36
8	19	I	Roberto COLCIAGO	ITA	SEAT Leon	28:00.586	16	3.377	126.33
9	16		Olivier TIELEMANS	NED	Alfa Romeo 156	28:03.191	16	5.982	126.13
10	18		Tiago MONTEIRO	POR	SEAT Leon	28:05.842	16	8.633	125.93
11	6		Robert HUFF	GBR	Chevrolet Lacetti	28:10.582	16	13.373	125.58
12	10		Michel JOURDAIN	MEX	SEAT Leon	28:13.782	16	16.573	125.34
13	35	I	Timur SADREDINOV	RUS	SEAT Leon	28:17.212	16	20.003	125.09
14	31	I	Sergio HERNANDEZ	ESP	BMW 320si	28:17.410	16	20.201	125.08
15	22	I	Maurizio CERESOLI	ITA	SEAT Leon	28:18.905	16	21.696	124.97
16	30	I	Luca RANGONI	ITA	BMW 320si	29:31.520	16	1:34.311	119.84
17	26	I	Stefano D'ASTE	ITA	BMW 320si	27:49.520	15	1 LAP	119.20
18	8		Alain MENU	SUI	Chevrolet Lacetti	29:10.352	6	N.C.F.	45.28
19	5		Felix PORTEIRO	ESP	BMW 320si	2:47.021	1	D.N.F.	76.21
20	4		Alessandro ZANARDI	ITA	BMW 320si	2:47.966	1	D.N.F.	75.78
21	7		Nicola LARINI	ITA	Chevrolet Lacetti	3:05.325	1	D.N.F.	68.68
22	20		Tom CORONEL	NED	SEAT Leon		0	D.N.F.	N/A
23	23	I	Pierre-Yves CORTHALS	BEL	SEAT Leon		0	D.N.F.	N/A
24	34	I	Massimiliano PEDALA	ITA	SEAT Leon		0	D.N.F.	N/A
25	40		Peter TERTING	GER	SEAT Leon		0	D.N.F.	N/A

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 11:49 (Ref:1996737)

First diesel victory in a FIA touring car championship.

Nice overtaking by Muller. Unfortunaly in the rest of the race there was no overtaking.

D'Aste and Rangoni can do a good job for privateers championship.

Why did Freitas not take part in the race? Technical problems? For this race he had a new factory engine.

Jimmy Magnusson · 26 Aug 2007, 11:54 (Ref:1996740)

Interresting that most of the drivers still hasn't learned to do a proper rolling start. STCC does it all the time, but they doesn't have first corner carnage each race.

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 14:07 (Ref:1996835)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

Interresting that most of the drivers still hasn't learned to do a proper rolling start. STCC does it all the time, but they doesn't have first corner carnage each race.

Same for standing start

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 14:12 (Ref:1996838)

Championship leader Jorg Muller DNF

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 14:18 (Ref:1996843)

Nice fight between Farfus and Priaulx

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 14:28 (Ref:1996851)

Nice race

Jimmy Magnusson · 26 Aug 2007, 14:39 (Ref:1996856)

Don't know about you, but I thought that Gene's first corner move was a bit reckless and not really on. Gutted for Colciago, who got taken off at the first corner in both races (well, in the first he actually lasted two). Surprised to see Priaulx being so aggresive on Farfus. I understand that he thought he had more pace, but it was his actions that brought the pack up to them again. He seemed to figure that out too, and was quite close several times, but it never came as close as the first time. If he'd forced the issue at their first contact I think he would have won. I saw him try the move Muller made on Tarquini in race 1, but for some reason he couldn't get his car to turn as well as the SEAT did. Again, had he at any point forced the issue a bit more he would have won.

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 15:13 (Ref:1996866)

Colciago was 8th in first race. His team mate Pedala crashed in race 1.

Jimmy Magnusson · 26 Aug 2007, 15:22 (Ref:1996871)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Colciago was 8th in first race. His team mate Pedala crashed in race 1.

I know that. But Colciago did get taken off at corner two, race 1, lap 1, while in third/fourth with all the kafuffle caused by Menu's spin. This dropped him down to 8th/9th.

**FIRE** · 26 Aug 2007, 16:25 (Ref:1996901)

Race 2

POS	NO	CL	DRIVER	NAT	CAR	TIME	LAPS	GAP	KPH
1	3		Augusto FARFUS	BRA	BMW 320si	22:55.632	14		134.99
2	1		Andy PRIAULX	GBR	BMW 320si	22:56.196	14	0.564	134.93
3	9		Jordi GENE	ESP	SEAT Leon TDI	22:58.136	14	2.504	134.74
4	15		James THOMPSON	GBR	Alfa Romeo 156	22:58.494	14	2.862	134.71
5	12		Yvan MULLER	FRA	SEAT Leon TDI	22:59.327	14	3.695	134.63
6	6		Robert HUFF	GBR	Chevrolet Lacetti	22:59.704	14	4.072	134.59
7	11		Gabriele TARQUINI	ITA	SEAT Leon	23:00.270	14	4.638	134.54
8	18		Tiago MONTEIRO	POR	SEAT Leon	23:03.906	14	8.274	134.18
9	10		Michel JOURDAIN	MEX	SEAT Leon	23:05.494	14	9.862	134.03
10	8		Alain MENU	SUI	Chevrolet Lacetti	23:06.392	14	10.760	133.94
11	34	I	Massimiliano PEDALA	ITA	SEAT Leon	23:06.884	14	11.252	133.89
12	20		Tom CORONEL	NED	SEAT Leon	23:07.385	14	11.753	133.85
13	26	I	Stefano D'ASTE	ITA	BMW 320si	23:07.869	14	12.237	133.80
14	19	I	Roberto COLCIAGO	ITA	SEAT Leon	23:08.989	14	13.357	133.69
15	4		Alessandro ZANARDI	ITA	BMW 320si	23:10.656	14	15.024	133.53
16	22	I	Maurizio CERESOLI	ITA	SEAT Leon	23:12.066	14	16.434	133.40
17	31	I	Sergio HERNANDEZ	ESP	BMW 320si	23:12.236	14	16.604	133.38
18	30	I	Luca RANGONI	ITA	BMW 320si	23:17.877	14	22.245	132.84
19	35	I	Timur SADREDINOV	RUS	SEAT Leon	23:26.248	14	30.616	132.05
20	5		Felix PORTEIRO	ESP	BMW 320si	23:27.118	14	31.486	131.97
21	7		Nicola LARINI	ITA	Chevrolet Lacetti	23:32.193	13	1 LAP	122.07
22	40		Peter TERTING	GER	SEAT Leon	20:12.079	12	2 LAPS	131.25
23	16		Olivier TIELEMANS	NED	Alfa Romeo 156	12:10.462	7	D.N.F.	126.71
24	2		Jorg MULLER	GER	BMW 320si	7:18.507	4	D.N.F.	120.05

429CJ · 26 Aug 2007, 16:55 (Ref:1996912)

Do you think the new first corner of Oschersleben is unnecessarily tight?
Like Martin Haven said, they almost need a handbrake to turn there.

Sodemo · 26 Aug 2007, 21:10 (Ref:1997048)

Why did they change it?

I have never been that keen on the track layout, its rather flat, feature-less and boring, and reminds me of Magny Cours.

There are also few places to pass.

Matt · 26 Aug 2007, 23:21 (Ref:1997156)

Bah, rubbish weekend from Chevrolet.

Les · 27 Aug 2007, 07:44 (Ref:1997255)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Bah, rubbish weekend from Chevrolet.

heh Huffy pulled some points out the bag... good on him

cg7aa · 27 Aug 2007, 16:54 (Ref:1997720)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 429CJ

Do you think the new first corner of Oschersleben is unnecessarily tight?
Like Martin Haven said, they almost need a handbrake to turn there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sodemo

Why did they change it?

I have never been that keen on the track layout, its rather flat, feature-less and boring, and reminds me of Magny Cours.

There are also few places to pass.

So, I'm not the only one who thinks the first turn is not very smart in terms of layout, I cannot remember seeing a car race here where races are not ruined or cars damaged because the whole field tries to funnel through a ridiculously tight turn. I know you can argue that the drivers should know this and perhaps should be that bit more cautious, fair point, but why increase the probability of accidents more than is necessary by requiring cars to almost come to a halt.

The corner needs to be revised.

PS: Zanardi's spatial awareness at the start of race 1 was not exactly brilliant was it?

Hazard · 27 Aug 2007, 18:28 (Ref:1997820)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cg7aa

PS: Zanardi's spatial awareness at the start of race 1 was not exactly brilliant was it?

Was much better in race 2 - brilliant drive through up to 8th. Looks like he got damaged trying to get that position off of Monteiro when he ended up in the ex-CART club and fell back.

Bramzel · 27 Aug 2007, 18:51 (Ref:1997848)

Zanardi drove like a moron. Not just the start in RACE 1, also his fight with Monteiro was plain stupid. How wil he ever score points if he keeps driving into people? He's way to hotheaded in that car, it's not the first time he has done stuff like this.

Ellmau · 27 Aug 2007, 21:30 (Ref:1997969)

I have to agree with Hazard on that one. Zanardi drove brillaintly in race 2, and imo Monteiro was driving like a moron in the battle with Zanardi.

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