2017 Japanese Super GT

[Baliwa]

Originally Posted by AkioAsakura95

@Baliwa

I think no Acura NSX GT3 race on Japan next year because they still think that it's a work-in-progress or the car is still on development stage and therefore won't invest on the GT3 program until they see results and they stated that NSX GT3 for customer team need to wait at least 2018

https://www.racer.com/imsa/item/1363...-s-nsx-testing

As BMW M6 GT3 , I hoped there have big update for the next season especially bodyshell for M6 GT3 as there is many issue of BMW M6 GT3 like engine trouble , cooling issues and so on.

@TF110

Do you agree this status as shown as above ????

Originally Posted by hvr777

Not yet, so far only 4 Acura NSX GT3 in US for next year, 2 cars for Pirelli World Challenge and another 2 cars for IMSA at GTD class.

I see Acura will appear in next 2 years or so, yes I hope so next season BMW can update their car for make it better car.

Position only a raised three
It was 12th.
There was no everyone sorry who cheer.
And Thank you.
Summary tonight or tomorrow crab
I will consider it.
It was really painful year.

http://lineblog.me/studiebob/archives/9234091.html

Man, Bob look alike depression in all this year.

[hvr777]

Originally Posted by Baliwa

Man, Bob look alike depression in all this year.

At first race with M6 GT3, they were able to finish at 3rd but the next races were very far from the expectation. Some kind of false dawn for the team.
Initially I thought the team should be the usual sight on the podium this season, after promising result at first race.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by hvr777

At first race with M6 GT3, they were able to finish at 3rd but the next races were very far from the expectation. Some kind of false dawn for the team.
Initially I thought the team should be the usual sight on the podium this season, after promising result at first race.

@hvr777

Calm down man... this is the normal case, because M6 GT3 is still on development stage and its completely new car as compared to Z4 GT3. Just like Toyota MC86 in 2015 season for the development stage and Nissan GT-R GT3 in 2014 season for the repeated troubled or accident that caused for M6 GT3 especially ARTA M6 crash at Motegi circuit.

I hoped M6 GT3 will updated as aggressive as Nissan GT-R GT3 and as reliable as Toyota MC86 by changed their body shell and setup the engine for the M6 GT3.

As ARTA M6, they can update to 2017 specs of M6 GT3 instead of repairing their M6 GT3 and sell to other team. Due to the NSX GT3 is still on developmental stage and M6 GT3 is prove to be competitive in this season because they won in Fuji 300km for this season and Spa 24 hours race too and they promised they will be competitive in 2017 season and won the championship

[Japanese Samurai]

http://ameblo.jp/yoshimoto-hiroki/en...219355591.html

According to Hiroki Yoshimoto blog,
GT300 entry number will be increased for next season.
Therefore, DNQ (Do-not-Qualify) will be introduced at qualifying.
2016 season top lanker teams and long-time participating teams will be seeded.
However, TM Corsa (#60) comes under neither.
So there is a possibility that they can't participate in SUGO and Chang where the number of pits is limited.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

http://ameblo.jp/yoshimoto-hiroki/en...219355591.html

According to Hiroki Yoshimoto blog,
GT300 entry number will be increased for next season.
Therefore, DNQ (Do-not-Qualify) will be introduced at qualifying.
2016 season top lanker teams and long-time participating teams will be seeded.
However, TM Corsa (#60) comes under neither.
So there is a possibility that they can't participate in SUGO and Chang where the number of pits is limited.

What do you mean top lanker teams???? Its means that the teams in top 15 is seeded in GT300 class right (according to team ranking)???

Speaking about DNQ (Do-not-Qualify) , the participation of SUPER GT include GT500 and GT300 for next year must more than 48 cars , if not then DNQ will not going to happen

[Japanese Samurai]

Sorry, lanker is typo.
I mean "top ranked team."


Japanese edition of Motorsport.com reports Keizo Takahashi (Lexus) interview about 2017 chassis development.

In the article, Takahashi says that Lexus GT500 driver line-up will be changed in 2017. But car number (6 cars) and tire manufacturer won't be changed.

http://jp.motorsport.com/supergt/new...%81%86-849810/

[AkioAsakura95]

Well here is my prediction for the Lexus GT500 team in 2017

#1 SARD -- Heikki Kovalainen , Kohei Hirate
#6 Le Mans --- Andrea Caldarelli , Kazuya Oshima
#19 Bandoh --- Yuhi Sekiguchi , Yuji Kunimoto
#36 au Tom's ---- Yuichi Nakayama? , Nick Cassidy , Hiroaki Ishiura? , Daisuke Ito?
#37 KeePer Tom's ---- Daisuke Ito? , James Rossiter , Ryo Hirakawa? , Yuichi Nakayama?
#38 CERUMO --- Yuji Tachikawa , Hiroaki Ishiura

Everyone, How about your opinion???

[Matt]

My prediction is that there will be some drivers in some cars.



I really wish this series had like, sixteen rounds instead of 8. 8 just seems so little.

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by Matt

I really wish this series had like, sixteen rounds instead of 8. 8 just seems so little.

I think it's fair to say that keeping the number of rounds down keeps the costs down - GT500 in particular has tended to generate had a lot of complaints from teams about running costs over the years.

[rjoconnell]

What a season 2016 was. I really can't wait for 2017.

[TF110]

I agree with the low race count being a bummer. 10 rounds would be a lot better. Maybe other parts of eastern Asia could host a round in the future.

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by TF110

I agree with the low race count being a bummer. 10 rounds would be a lot better. Maybe other parts of eastern Asia could host a round in the future.

To be fair, 10 rounds would be a fair number so I agree with you there.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by TF110

I agree with the low race count being a bummer. 10 rounds would be a lot better. Maybe other parts of eastern Asia could host a round in the future.

10 rounds with two races a weekend.

200km race Saturday, whatever the normal distance is on Sunday.

[MagVanisher]

I think a 250km or 300km race for Saturday and Sunday will work well. I mean, the double-header race at Motegi was successful.

[bentley speed 8]

Racing overseas though might be too expensive for some of the smaller teams. Many do not make the trip the Thailand already

[MagVanisher]

I think local guest teams will be better when racing in Buriram and/or Sepang.

And I can agree with you regarding smaller teams having no money to race outside Japan.

[chunder]

My question has always been in this series.

How on earth do you restrict something like a Lambo or AMG Merc down to 300hp!!!

Or are they silhouette cars with normal Japanese engines in them? It's been going on for years in the 300 class, and I have never quite understood the rules of that class! Using V8 engines and engines that produce 600HP in the big cars or in GT racing, yet here are somehow restricted to 300!

[Japanese Samurai]

No. GT300 doesn't mean actual horsepower.
FIA-GT3 cars generate original horsepower based on SRO-BoP.

[Japanese Samurai]

GTA (Organizer of SGT) had restricted the performance of FIA-GT3 car before.
However, GTA changed the policy because FIA-GT3 manufacturers weren't eager to sell a car to SGT.
At present, SRO decides a performance adjustment of FIA-GT3 car.
So GT300 class car is generating as same horsepower as Blancpain GT3 series car.

[hvr777]

Originally Posted by chunder

My question has always been in this series.

How on earth do you restrict something like a Lambo or AMG Merc down to 300hp!!!

Or are they silhouette cars with normal Japanese engines in them? It's been going on for years in the 300 class, and I have never quite understood the rules of that class! Using V8 engines and engines that produce 600HP in the big cars or in GT racing, yet here are somehow restricted to 300!

If you compare lap time at Fuji Speedway between GT300 cars and LMGTE cars of FIA WEC (which have about 450-480 HP), you will see the frontrunner of GT300 cars actually run 1-2 seconds faster than LMGTE car. I think it's one of the strong evidence that FIA GT3 cars actually have somewhere at 500-550HP (depend on Balance of Performance), similar with FIA GT3 cars at other series.

Also, the FIA GT3 cars usually have minimum weight somewhere between 1200-1350kg (not far away from LMGTE cars). Meanwhile specifically-designed local JAF-GT cars (Prius, BRZ, 86 Mother Chassis, Evora Mother Chassis) have stated minimum weight at 1100kg and have less power than FIA GT3 cars.

[hvr777]

Here is the complete story of 2016 GT500 champion, Team SARD, since its first inception. It's in Japanese but the translation from Google seems easy to understand. Lots of team's up and downs especially on JGTC/Super GT.

http://motorz.jp/car/18365

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by FormulaFox

I think it's fair to say that keeping the number of rounds down keeps the costs down - GT500 in particular has tended to generate had a lot of complaints from teams about running costs over the years.

Yeah, let's not forget this. After all, the main reason the DTM regs were adopted was because all three manufacturers wanted to stem the spiralling costs without losing face to each other. The double-header was great to watch, but it was due to extraordinary circumstances and all the teams had plenty of notice to make any extra preparations. I seriously doubt that it would run as smoothly if it were to become the norm.

Hopefully the push for international recognition (for which Bandoh deserves great praise) frees up the purses a bit and the series can be expanded to 10 rounds, which should be within the means of most of the regular GT300 teams as well.

Originally Posted by chunder

My question has always been in this series.

How on earth do you restrict something like a Lambo or AMG Merc down to 300hp!!!

Or are they silhouette cars with normal Japanese engines in them? It's been going on for years in the 300 class, and I have never quite understood the rules of that class! Using V8 engines and engines that produce 600HP in the big cars or in GT racing, yet here are somehow restricted to 300!

To add to the previous explanations, maybe in the first few seasons the plan was to try and keep the two classes at 500hp and 300hp respectively, but if that was the case then it was quickly abandoned. The class names are just a holdover from that time. Even the JAF/MC cars make closer to 400hp now, so clearly for them to be balanced against much heavier cars, the GT3's BoP must be similar to VLN/Blancpain (i.e. 500+hp).

For instance, if you were going to rename the top class more accurately then it would be called GT700...

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by chunder

My question has always been in this series.

How on earth do you restrict something like a Lambo or AMG Merc down to 300hp!!!

Or are they silhouette cars with normal Japanese engines in them? It's been going on for years in the 300 class, and I have never quite understood the rules of that class! Using V8 engines and engines that produce 600HP in the big cars or in GT racing, yet here are somehow restricted to 300!

In Super GT300 class, only in ealry 2000 there were cars with 300hp... ford gt with 3.5 f1 engine; murcielago gt1; 360, 430, 458 gt2, various 911 gt2 were all in the 400-500hp range before the recent massive GT3 invasion. Anyway, power is nothing when GT500/300 prototypes have a 2x or 3x better corner speed.

In 2005 or 2006 team goh tested a maserati MC12 GT1 at suzuka for a possible effort in GT500 season. Even if the car had more than 100hp compared to honda, nissan and toyota; because of GT1 aero, MC12 was a slug in corners. The project was dropped.

[Matt]

Also open tires in GT300 allow for faster lap times than GTE

[Starfish Primer]

GTE is tire open, we have Dunlop for the Aston Martins and Michelin for the other teams.