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Old 20 Sep 2024, 01:41 (Ref:4227491)   #26
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Could explain, the sudden dropping of Frosty for next year and the signing of a young gun replacement.

Charlie Forklifts might have some extra dollars from Toyota to lure a driver, and the Toyota name as an incentive to get ADP on board.


It seemed a bit funny at the time for ADP to leave DJR, to go Team18.
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Old 20 Sep 2024, 01:42 (Ref:4227492)   #27
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thats what I was thinking. Its a small body car unless they stretch it to suit the same size of the current race models
they have to. I am sure it will look like as stupid as the Gen 2 Mustang stretched over a 4 door frame
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they have to. I am sure it will look like as stupid as the Gen 2 Mustang stretched over a 4 door frame
I came in to post exactly the same fears. Hopefully it will end up more in proportion than that, but I guess it is what it is, or will be what it will be.
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they have to. I am sure it will look like as stupid as the Gen 2 Mustang stretched over a 4 door frame
Supercars won’t do that again. That Mustang looked like a joke.
How the Supra looks now (as in the announcement) is how it will race, Toyota won’t allow their car looking like a joke.
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Old 20 Sep 2024, 07:26 (Ref:4227500)   #30
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they have to. I am sure it will look like as stupid as the Gen 2 Mustang stretched over a 4 door frame
You know the biggest issue wasn't the Supercars requirements, it was Penske deliberately making it ugly for aero benefit.

The glasshouse was the frame, but everything else including the droop snoot, was 100% for performance gain.

the Supra anyway can just be scaled up and kept in proportion, it's proportions are not massively different to the other 2 cars, unlike trying to squish a 2 door car over frame built for a 4-door car.
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I came in to post exactly the same fears. Hopefully it will end up more in proportion than that, but I guess it is what it is, or will be what it will be.
Thats why I suggested the Camry over the Supra.
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It would have been good for Toyota to run a supped up original Supra engine, I get they are kinda promoting the Tundra, but original would have been better and maybe encouraged other manufacturers to come in
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Supercars won’t do that again. That Mustang looked like a joke.
How the Supra looks now (as in the announcement) is how it will race, Toyota won’t allow their car looking like a joke.
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Ford didn't seem to care what their car looked like, as long as it won with a Ford badge on it. They could have been racing a banana car. When you see the Gen2 Mustang on track today you realise how terrible it was.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 09:43 (Ref:4227757)   #36
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Did anyone else think 'Christine' when they saw this image?
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I only watched the movie a matter of weeks ago "again" But no.
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Good response but…

That Supra doesn’t look like a joke. It is very much the normal in the North American motor racing scene…

The Gen2 Mustang was fugly at best. Even the Absolutely Ugly (AU) was better.
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Wonder if the ‘works’ cars will be 100% factory backed & branded…
Like the old TTA days, trade sponsors only..
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Old 6 Oct 2024, 02:25 (Ref:4229634)   #39
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Toyota will want to make sure viewers know Toyota is there.
So unless a sponsor like Motul joins it’ll be factory looking car.
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Old 6 Oct 2024, 06:12 (Ref:4229661)   #40
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Given how they’ve stated they want to promote the GR brand you’d assume at least one of them will be in that livery, ala Caruso who ran the “factory” Nissan from 15-18, guess it depends how long the Optus & Truck Assist deals run for
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Caruso's Nissan ran primarily in Nissan livery primarily because the team was unable to secure sponsorship after Norton departed. I would imagine a splattering of Toyota signage will appear much like they appear on other cars, rather than Toyota becoming the naming rights sponsor.
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Speedcafe reporting that Toyota are moving back into F1 as well.

Impressive launch at Bathurst today on TV.
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Maybe it will look better on track but the front end looks utterly hideous. Rear not so bad though.
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Impressive launch at Bathurst today on TV.
It looks like a sponsorship arrangement. No change to car or engine.

I guess we get a Toyota badged BMW in Supercars and they will run a Toyota badged proxy Ferrari in F1

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So… with so many of the senior decision makers from Toyota GAZOO Racing at Bathurst for the Supra unveiling.. it surely cannot have escaped their attention as to how poorly one of the teams linked to their brand ran this weekend.. and the terrible race day they had.

Blame pilots, crashes and the phases of the moon..
Despite the promise, they (again) didn’t deliver.

One of their pilots has a clip on his insta page that showcases a mix of frustration, anger, depression and resignation all in one short video.

Hope you were looking Mr Toyota..
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That link is so tenuous why is the press even working it?

Grove or PremiAir are far better teams.

Hell even MSR.

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it surely cannot have escaped their attention as to how poorly one of the teams linked to their brand ran this weekend.. and the terrible race day they had.

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I can't help but wonder if Toyota will simply be another manufacturer on the grid making up the numbers but with no real chance of winning?
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I can't help but wonder if Toyota will simply be another manufacturer on the grid making up the numbers but with no real chance of winning?
Who is the other manufacturer making up the number? Dare I ask.
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Ford and previously Nissan.
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