ACO/FIA WEC 1000 Miles (or 8 Hours) of Sebring

[TF110]

Yeah I guess they just skipped it because the track will be a lot different. I didn't see anyone go for really quick laps on the timing.

[Juntos]

I wonder how far from full potential are the Toyota running at Sebring. It does not take a great supernatural hero or magical hero to give them a win this weekend.

[seanyb505]

See also: the entire wec season so far. Underscored by Le Mans

[TF110]

Any streams for qualifying?

[kvenom]

1:40.1 for Alonso, smashed the record.

[TF110]

Not quite sub 1:40, but traffic really hurt the second Toyota.

[Adam43]

Some fun lappery. I enjoyed the night action.

[Truckosaurus]

Now then Comrades,

I've just looked it up myself so I thought I'd share the info, for people in the UK there is what looks like full coverage on both the Eurosport1 and BT Sport 3 channels.

[canaglia]

Quite disappointed by WEC timelaps. Start considering IMSA michelin's suit much better sebring than WEC michelin's/dunlop's


Just give an eye to WEC lmp2 pole. Mid 1.47
WEC lmp2 share same aero with dpi but have about 20-30hp less.
Dpi best time in FP was high 1.46 and likely pole could be in high 1.45.
About 2 seconds is a huge gap and can't be justified only by the lack of some power.


Same happens in GT-pro. IMSA gtlm would likely set a pole in mid 1.55 like last season. Here again, WEC gt-pro about 2 seconds slower....

I know IMSA gtlm have always used to be lighter, but gap is too much.

[Akrapovic]

The WEC LMP2 speed is about what you'd expect. DPi don't just have more power - they have factory supported cars, factory drivers, and the LMP2 pole is an average time remember.

[pafe]

Free livestream for Germany, Austria & Switzerland starts 20:15
https://tv.sport1.de/player/player.php?id=s687522

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

The WEC LMP2 speed is about what you'd expect. DPi don't just have more power - they have factory supported cars, factory drivers, and the LMP2 pole is an average time remember.

Good points, the exact specs on the IMSA cars and the WEC P2's would be helpful for comparison purposes. I don't know where to find the WEC P2 specs (officially so i found some old infl not sure if it is current), but here are the IMSA specs. The turbo cars each have their own boost tables.

Car	Weight	Engine size	Max RPM	Restrictor	Fuel capacity
Acura	940	3.5T	7050	none	76
Caddy	950	5.5	7600	31.9 (x2)	70
Mazda	915	2.0T	9300	none	77
Nissan	935	3.8T	7100	none	82
IMSA P2	940	4.2	8250	none	70
WEC P2	930	4.2	?	None	75

[Akrapovic]

I know Facebook is filled with IMSA and WEC fans hating each other, but I have to say, this is the coolest motorsport weekend outside of Le Mans for me. Sebring has always been awesome, but this bumps it up another level. It's like the icing ontop of a very awesome cake.

Really hope this schedule continues.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I know Facebook is filled with IMSA and WEC fans hating each other, but I have to say, this is the coolest motorsport weekend outside of Le Mans for me. Sebring has always been awesome, but this bumps it up another level. It's like the icing ontop of a very awesome cake.

Really hope this schedule continues.

Indeed, and I hope i can make it in person next year! Every one of those fans trackside is getting some seriously good racing action over the weekend.

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I know Facebook is filled with IMSA and WEC fans hating each other, but I have to say, this is the coolest motorsport weekend outside of Le Mans for me. Sebring has always been awesome, but this bumps it up another level. It's like the icing ontop of a very awesome cake.

Really hope this schedule continues.

Provisional 2019-20 WEC calendar already has this event scheduled again, with the date as TBD as IMSA's 2020 calendar is not out yet.

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The Final Order of Q (WEC in absolutes, not avg)

MAIN CLASSES
1:40.124 LMP1
1:45.865 DPi-LMP2
1:55.899 GTE
1:59.917 GT3
2:02.049 LMP3
2:10.521 GT4
2:13.751 TCR

WITH SUB ORDERS
1:40.124 LMP1 Hybrid
1:41.919 LMP1 Non-Hybrid
1:45.865 DPi
1:46.923 LMP2 WEC
1:49.728 LMP2 IMSA
1:55.899 GTLM
1:57.257 LMGTE-PRO
1:58.411 LMGTE-AM
1:59.917 GT3
2:02.049 LMP3
2:10.521 GT4
2:13.751 TCR

[Juntos]

Well done Chiana

[skycafe]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Provisional 2019-20 WEC calendar already has this event scheduled again, with the date as TBD as IMSA's 2020 calendar is not out yet.

I believe that by combining the 1000 with the 12 Hours weekend they are attempting to establish an identity for the 1000 in order to move it to another time of the year. Sebring had an FIA GT round in 1997 in October, but it had underwhelming spectator support, but that was a series born in Europe and spun into US appearances and it did not have casual fan support in the US. Something the 12 Hours has. If they can establish the 1000 perhaps it could stand alone? That could be a good thing for the community financially.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by skycafe

I believe that by combining the 1000 with the 12 Hours weekend they are attempting to establish an identity for the 1000 in order to move it to another time of the year. Sebring had an FIA GT round in 1997 in October, but it had underwhelming spectator support, but that was a series born in Europe and spun into US appearances and it did not have casual fan support in the US. Something the 12 Hours has. If they can establish the 1000 perhaps it could stand alone? That could be a good thing for the community financially.

Not according to our friend Gerard

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...020-21-season/

“We go to Sebring if it’s during the 12-hour meeting or we will [find] another place,” he said.

[skycafe]

Had not seen that. Thanks. Interesting.

[seanyb505]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Some fun lappery. I enjoyed the night action.

Agree ultimately

[truebeliever]

Originally Posted by joeb

Good points, the exact specs on the IMSA cars and the WEC P2's would be helpful for comparison purposes. I don't know where to find the WEC P2 specs (officially so i found some old infl not sure if it is current), but here are the IMSA specs. The turbo cars each have their own boost tables.

If the weights are correct, why is there any reason the IMSA P2 weight is 10 kgs heavier than the WEC one, if not to make a P2 harder to beat a Caddilac?

[seanyb505]

It is 100% to make it harder for a P2 to beat any DPi. Not in a malicious way, but weight was part of creating a small separation in performance between DPi (manufacturer dollars, prestige, eyeballs) and standard P2 cars (gentlemen drivers).

[TheMightyM]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Provisional 2019-20 WEC calendar already has this event scheduled again, with the date as TBD as IMSA's 2020 calendar is not out yet.

While IMSA's 2020 calendar hasn't been announced yet, the date when Sebring should be held is pretty much set: — the traditional date for the 12 Hours of Sebring is the third Saturday in March (March 21 in 2020). Sebring International Raceway usually starts promoting the next year's event (with dates) even before the IMSA schedule comes out.

I suspect this is just the WEC wanting to make sure the event works in 2019 before completely committing in 2020. I would also agree that a combined race weekend at Sebring isn't the long term solution.

[TF110]

Night qualifying threw a wrench in some teams times I believe for the WEC. Can't wait for the race, traffic will definitely play a part.