rallycross super series

[Hog]

How can you have a British Rallycross series that doesn't go to Lydden?

It's like steak without chips, bangers without mash, Gnomex without his fishing rod........

It just shouldn't be allowed.

[BertMk2]

Those circuits aren't confirmed, they're just my guess as to the ones that will meet the criteria (which I also don't know the details of - lots of guesswork going on here ). Those circuits are the most likely as they all have rallycross sections and all have pit garages (and are all at BTCC spec).

As Hog says a Rallycross series without Lydden is just fundementally wrong.

Rxie - You want to get some more circuits out there mate

[bigted]

Knockhill doesnt have any pit garages

[BertMk2]

Ooops. Does it not? I assumed it had as the BTCC goes there - I guess the teams just have to take really big car sized umbrellas then

[bigted]

I think the bottom line is that the shortage of information bout venues means one thing, they are struggling to get circuits to meet there demands.

[Barrie]

Not getting into a debate on what circuits will be used as details havent been released yet. Having had a chat with 1 of the Super-series organisers at Lydden last week I asked about Lyddens envolvment. There is an issue with some of the tyre walls, especially the tyre wall where Bellerby had his huge accident Easter Monday. Also things like the old caravans at the top of the pits would need moving so they wouldn't come across on the TV, and a few other cosmetic improvements would be needed, apart from that Lydden is certainly in the plans.

[BertMk2]

Originally posted by bigted
I think the bottom line is that the shortage of information bout venues means one thing, they are struggling to get circuits to meet there demands.

I'd be very suprised if Brands, Mondello and Croft didn't already meet their criteria. SuperSeries get's its official launch at the Croft GP sp I guess the calendar will be announced then. Good to hear Lydden is being considered

[chauffeur]

Anyone got any idea how the series is going to be funded,considering cicuit hire charges, and most of the big circuits want this upfront. Reading on the marshals forum,Brands charge in the region of £18000 per day. Thats a lot of wonga to find for a fledgling series,and that is only one round out of the proposed six.

[golfvanman]

one of the organisers was very keen on me backing the championship with my car and the only part that is origional audi tt is the door mirrors ( supermodified spaceframe it is ! )so think that answers that one. As for the venues been told similar answers to what is the common thought croft, knockhill, mondello,brands and lydden is being considered.

you can tell gnomex is a marshal, us drivers cant even spell bolw never mind ampithretratre........ oh ******** what ever it is !!!

thank god for marshall having some brains 1

[bucko]

what about wild track circuit

[chauffeur]

Call me thick if you like,but how do you back a series with a car and not £££££££. Can't get my head round that one or is it the amber nectre dulling my senses.

[Cryos]

Rxie - You want to get some more circuits out there mate

Yeh me and RM have our shovels out digging away, we should have our international spec rallycross cuircuit done by 2050 at the rate we are going

what about wild track circuit

Yeh anyone know if the issues are sorted? if not it will be off the Brda championship again this year

[chauffeur]

Totally sorted going there on November 21st. A test day is planned.

[winnie]

Lydden has to be a must for the superseries as it is such a good track and always draws a decent crowd. I agree it needs a tidy up.
I would have thought Pembrey has good enough facilties. The track is now in good condition. Don't they race Touring cars there any more.
I agree with Chauffeur about the funding. The TV companies aren't going to pay very much (if any)the entry fees are low, travel expenses paid for euro drivers, prize money, circuit hire etc. Thats a huge amount of money required.

[Queen]

After reading the first proposals in Ireland each driver was expected to stump up big amounts of money ie £10,000 each. Has this been readressed if not how can they fund such a grand venture.

[Cryos]

Queen, i dont know how fees could come to that...

I know for us to run 5 events with 75 entrys and 400 spectators (entrys at 160 and specs at 15 a head) we would loose 14,800 after the compleetion of the 5 rounds. That was using the championship permit and Standing charges (permit 3,000 and standard feees of 20,000 per event)

[Queen]

Rxie when circuit hire charges are as high as chauffeur allready pointed out how can this series fund six round's and make a profit. No club or series would do this.When all said and done RXSS,will be run as a buisness and expect to make money.Unless they have opted to take a loss untill the series is established.

[Cryos]

I dont have a clue how much circuit hire is in the uk, but mondello according to ckmc is 10,000 euro per event.

We would make a 14,800 euro loss before a sponsor was found.

Well all businesses have plans and well, we will just have to wait for the presslaunch, i recon they have done their homwork, dont forget if you think big and act big you can draw alot of people to events, its a very big logistical calculation (we have been fortuante we have calculated our funding like clubman events).

[BertMk2]

Presumably there's money coming in from series sponsors? Motors TV are showing it so perhaps they've handed over some cash, Shell are involved so maybe them too? Interesting point though.

[TWIGLET]

If Motors TV have signed up to show the Superseries, will they still bother showing the "lowly other classes"?
Not that they get that much in the first place.

[moyzer]

Going back to the track thing again; I read in Rallycross World magazine that Jonathan Palmer, who has aquired a few circuits now, may entertain having rallycross at one or more of his tracks again. If I remember rightly, one of those circuits was Snetterton? I haven't got the magazine to hand so can't quote anything, but Snetterton certainly has the facilities. I wonder if the Superseries boys are talking to J.P??

[Cryos]

Its also worth pointing out to you guys that it is a SERIES and not a Championship!

[TWIGLET]

I had brain fade. Motors TV don't show the rallycross.

[TWIGLET]

Has anyone actually thought about how many cars are eligible to run in this series.
Rxie, how many do you know of over there?
I can't think of that many :confused ................ quote "loads of media coverage"

[BertMk2]

I think most (if not all) of the current crop of cars will be eligible for one category or another - I think the supermodifieds fall into 'supernational' and most of the supercars will be 'Division 1' compliant by the start of next season (a lot already are).