How biased are we.

[RWC]

I'm ALLMOST totally unbiassed.I don't know yet how webber will stack up in the long term so i'm not getting carried a way.
I think the only way i come close to bias is that i don't rate ralf anymore(actually he is pretty good sometimes but the way he follows michael around the track he deserves all the dirision he gets)
And...coulthard(used to partly respect him but he's gone SO far past wasting his opportunities AND THAT DISGUSTING HABIT OF LYING TO HIMSELF AND US EACH YEAR ,that i'll never respect him again)

[thebear]

David Hobbs & crew on SPEED (nee Speedvision) do a decent job as an "after the fact" as they are commenting (most of the time) from a studio in the US on a broadcast over which they have absolutely NO control.

[RT]

I voted "a little" because there was no "quite a bit"
in the options.

I feel the forum is quite biased in its opinions but the forum is also respectful of each other's views and also fairly objective (not a conflict with being biased, you just emphasize your points when you have a rationale for them).

It all should be a credit for the moderators, etc who have found a way to keep this Forum interesting, lively and sometimes irksome. Just the perfect mix for a fun place to e-talk.

Thanks for a job well done and Happy New Year to you all!!

Cheers,

RT

[Mark Webber]

Originally posted by flexible-flyer
very. using webber as my example, anybody how continues to think he did a better job in 2003 than irvine 2002 seems to be a webber fan or is australian rather than a 'nuetral' like myself.

Cheap shot !

but hey a little but the same could be said about poms and "any" drivers from that region being Scot/english/Irish

you R hardly Netural!

but I'm not starting this again

[flexible-flyer]

im am a fan of the sport and give credit when due. obviously if im gonna talk to someone they will have to speak english but thats only that situation. any driver and i could give 'good' points and 'bad' points.

[Wrex]

As Garcon mentioned, everyone has a little bias. It's not that they are liars though, I believe most of you have no idea that you are.

A simple test for you (as mentioned in an old thread), would I say this (with the same enthusiasm or hatred) if the names were reveresed? The answer is always no.


When we are looking for a new mod for instance, over 50 names will be considered. It becomes vey difficult to find someone without a bias (look at that Ashmore fella and his Jaguar bashing ) that they can overcome.

Thats not a bad thing BTW, as most bias (the positive kind only) is usually linked to enthusiasm and passion for the sport (and if you dont like that word Jay, go to another site).

[aussie_f3]

I'm not biased at all - in fact I cant stand the Webber hype one bit - I am a fan of a good drive - not driver - regardless of nationality or manufacturer

[Led ZeppF1]

I am a human. So, yes, I am bias. At least a little...

[Hugh Jarce]

I guess I am biased - but in a negative sense.

I tend react to F1 arrogance and that's why I dislike certain people. That means that I may make 'broad brushstroke' judgements against whole teams because of the attitude and comments of certain individuals.

[Korr]

Since I watch F1 for the Pit Babes, I can say that I am unbiased!

Love comes in all languages

[Irv the Swerve]

Originally posted by Korr
Since I watch F1 for the Pit Babes, I can say that I am unbiased!

Poetry.
A man after me own heart.



In terms of driver/team bias...I try and be neutral. Its not always possible though. If a driver does it on the track then I don't care about anything else, conversely, if a driver fails to perform on the track - there are simply no excuses(within reason).

Hype is bull, always has been always will be.

[mansellmania]

*Edited first part of post concerning Autosport and McLaren*


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mansellmania. I have repeatedly asked you to not hijack threads and stay on topic. Consider this your final warning. If you continue, your posting rights will be removed.

Wrex



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As for myself i think im slightly biased although i must admit in the days when hill was driving for williams i tended to be furious whenever he won a race.

[avsfan733]

I'm not biased everyone who disagrees with me is

[Smokey 6 litre]

I am totally biased, i support all British drvers (but not DC too much because, i've been let down too many times)

Button for the 2005 Williams seat.

[Cougar]

Originally posted by Smokey 6 litre
I am totally biased, i support all British drvers (but not DC too much because, i've been let down too many times)

BRAVO! for the DC comment (sorry thats my bias AGAINST british drivers coming through...

EDIT : 10-10ths should really invest in a spell checker

[Dani Filth]

bias poster here ... but i come to a point that i'm not that much .. but you should have heard me a few years ago

[garcon]

I'm beginning to think there's enough of us biased British blokes about to mount a serious campaign...

Button for Williams 2005!!!

I'm willing to leave my own Ferrari bias at the door for that one...

P.S. A speelcheker wood seam a purrfect idea!

[Jordi]

A little bit. Jacques is my favourite driver and I think you can all tell, but I prefer to shut up rather than defend him at all costs. If he f***ed up, well, I can't defend him, but if the car fails him, I'm gonna speak!

[Wrex]

Originally posted by Jordi
A little bit. Jacques is my favourite driver and I think you can all tell, but I prefer to shut up rather than defend him at all costs. If he ****ed up, well, I can't defend him, but if the car fails him, I'm gonna speak!

I think this is where bias plays it's biggest part though Jordi. When your bias, you cant see it's your drivers fault.

The JV fans for instant 'honestly' believe that DR screwed him etc. I dont think they are defending for the sake of it, the actually believe it.

Schumacher for example - there are some (and lets not start debating it again) that will defend his move on JV at Jerez. Now IMO, even as a Schumacher fan, anyone that thinks thats ok has lost the plot.

This forum is full of examples like this.

I'm sure I was'nt the only one reading these posts, looking at the names, and having a chuckle saying 'yeah right!'

[Adam43]

Originally posted by Wrex
I'm sure I was'nt the only one reading these posts, looking at the names, and having a chuckle saying 'yeah right!'

Which is precisely why I avoided this thread for a time. It is too easy to be hypocritical!

For my part I understand bias for something. However I don't get bias against something despite it being quite common.

Interesting that you mention my Jaguar Racing bashing. It does occur. Although I think this is due to my like of Jaguar. What is odd is that if you defend (or criticise) someone of something you can end up being labelled as biased even when clearly not. Also everyone needs there trademark. Luckily I don't mention it in everything I post!

Sometimes I find it far easier to argue for people I have no particular bias for than arguing for people I do have bias for.

[Phoenix1]

I prefer Brits in general but then I don't like DC and I went right of (slightly off F1 but principle same) Franchitti when he went to CART (please no debate on that here!) I grow up with F1 but first started to watch in 1994 so naturally I went for Hill but even though I followed him and was gutted beyond belief at Hungary '97 and simulary over joyed at Spa '98 I was still at heart a Williams guy. Know adays I support JPM and alough not a great Ralf fan prefer him to be up at the front to anyone else. When JPM leaves though I will hope he gets say third because he was good which is ironic since in CART he was the main opposition to Franchitti. How times change. :-S

I'm just very odd all I know at the end of the day is I never ever watch rugby and very rarely watch footie but when it comes to England winning it is a proud moment.

[MacMan]

I voted a little as it really depends on the situation but I will pretty much defend anyone as I truly like them all. But, and you all probably won't be surprised, if a McLaren and a Ferrari were coming out of the last corner of the last lap absolutely neck and neck I want the McLaren to win everytime and I doubt anything will ever change that

[O'Schumacher]

I'm 100% biased. As goes my nickname, I'm a TGF fan rather than Ralf....



*Last part of post deleted - Wrex



We dont wish drivers die here at Ten-Tenths. We may have to change your name to O'Nutcase

[Woolley]

I don't think I am biased. My view is I like to see good driving, I can't bear bad sportsmanship. A driver will attract my attention from either, but too much of the latter and I can not offer him support. TGF has shown too often for my tastes that he finds dangerous driving (when he does it) acceptable, and so I will not support him. He's far from alone. Button did it in FFord, thus proving that nationality does not affect it. I've yet to see him in a position to prove that he's changed, but if he does, fine.

Although this is an F1 thread, the driver who most received my support was in Champ Cars. Not only supremely talented behind the wheel, fiercely determined but fair as a racer, and was not afraid to say 'sorry, my fault' after an inciedent, Greg Moore was the epitome of a modern racing driver, and no-one in F1 has yet earned my full support. Many have lost it.

[Cougar]

Well im pretty impressed on how little any names were mentioned in the thread... It CAN be done hehe... (no driver bashing thread)

Ill always shout for a driver from my country! (if we ever have one again) And ill always have a fav driver and team. And im pretty sure there will be someone I will dislike.

I think bias is a good thing.