2006 V8 Supercars Race Calendar

[mixxer]

Well the lack of discussion on your point is probably a precursor to how most here feel about your suggestion.

[Dobbo89]

if you really wanted to race on the indy oval, just become a support race for the NASCAR Brickyard 400, few hundred thousand there to watch, millions on TV, good for the multi-national sponsers, might sell a few GTO's over there as well, with Skaifey re-badged as PRT....

I would love to see them run at Spa, and I am sure a lot of the drivers would love too as well.

[Rombles1]

Another thread, another time, another place, had a suggestion of V8SC vs BTCC vs DTM (and maybe Nascar in there as well). Maybe some of these international tracks on this thread could happen with this sort of event. One event per year maybe, with Indy and Spa getting it for the first two years, just to keep those on this thread satisfied.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by mixxer

Well the lack of discussion on your point is probably a precursor to how most here feel about your suggestion.

Isn't that a bit worrying then, that many people are oblivious to whats going here or worse that they dont care about the issue.

[GTRMagic]

Can we take the V8Supercar circus to Knockhill??? Please, pretty please... with sugar on top!!

I have been watching a DVD from www.motorracing.tv with the British F3 series.... those cars were driven like speedway units, plenty of stop go, plenty of jumping over kerbs... brilliant stuff!!!

[dynamik gal]

1. Clipsal, nor any other round or event, will be held during the Commonwealth Games 2006 - which knocks out March 15 - 26 - give or take a few days/weekend each side.

2. Bahrain and/or Dubai are 90% certainties for 2006 or 2007 for both at latest.

3. If TC is looking at taking us to Oval/USA, it would perhaps be returining the favour of what the ChampCars do here - they come to the Gold Coast, so we go to Fontana - their last round - in California (logistically possible) as our last round - in late November as payback for their continuance of coming to the Gold Coast...

4. If all of the above happens, TC gets 90% of his dream - Asia, Pacific, Middle East, America... just missing Europe, but that is a slightly harder question of reasoning - for logistical and 1,000 more what not questions and debates.

[cavvy]

Anyone able to cost a budget for any of these circuses?

[Just Do It!]

Which circuses are you referring to?

CART costs about the same in US dollars to run one car for one year as what two Supercars cost in Australian dollars to run for one year.

[mike_slh]

Does anybody think that there is a chance of the v8's coming to Europe in the near future,perhaps for a one off race?

[mitchie]

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

3. If TC is looking at taking us to Oval/USA, it would perhaps be returining the favour of what the ChampCars do here - they come to the Gold Coast, so we go to Fontana - their last round - in California (logistically possible) as our last round - in late November as payback for their continuance of coming to the Gold Coast...

Champ Car doesnt run at Fontana anymore, the last event was in 2002 as the 2003 race there was called off due to wildfires in the area. The final round of the season is a Mexico City on a road course, the last oval of the year is Las Vegas in mid-September

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

2. Bahrain and/or Dubai are 90% certainties for 2006 or 2007 for both at latest.

Given Avesco's fumbling of the 2004 China event, you never know about 2005 either, 90 % does not mean to much.

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

3. If TC is looking at taking us to Oval/USA, it would perhaps be returining the favour of what the ChampCars do here - they come to the Gold Coast, so we go to Fontana - as payback for their continuance of coming to the Gold Coast...

Why would it be viewed as a payback. Champcars have been running there long then the Supertaxi's.
Not sure if this has been discussed, explored yet, can a Supertaxi in its current form be raced on an oval, let alone a Superspeedway ?

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

4. If all of the above happens, TC gets 90% of his dream - Asia, Pacific, Middle East, America...

While the Australian motorsort industry becomes less and less

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

just missing Europe, but that is a slightly harder question of reasoning .

Also the motorsport saturation that Europe currently lives in, a move to Europe would be brave.

[emjaya]

Originally Posted by mike_slh

Does anybody think that there is a chance of the v8's coming to Europe in the near future,perhaps for a one off race?

Yes,my guess is in 2007.

[Just Do It!]

I know there is interest from the USA () and I hear that there is interest from Europe. To quote a Yank: "Supercars are boner material compared to NASCAR racing"

Enough said!

[racer69]

There would be interest from the purists, but why would the fringe fans want to watch a bunch of unfamiliar cars driven by unfamiliar drivers?

Going anywhere near Europe or the USA would be suicide!

Christ, we don't even know if anyone is going to turn up to watch them trundle around Shanghai

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by Just Do It!

I know there is interest from the USA () and I hear that there is interest from Europe. To quote a Yank: "Supercars are boner material compared to NASCAR racing"

Enough said!

Would you say that there is a sustainable interest, my opinion I doubt it.

[Speed Kills]

How come noboday has jumped to Winton's defence? Let partition to get the V8's back to Banalla, its usch a great track for spectators.

[racer69]

I'm right behind Winton being on the schedule.

Australian tracks should always be the priority over whoring the product overseas to the highest bidder.......

[mabs_nsx]

Any chance there be a V8 race on the new Bunbury International Circuit next year? There will be 2 rounds of the Formula BMW Asia there on September 24-25 this year.

[dynamik gal]

IMO I would prefer the V8 circus to stay within the Aus/NZ area, to give us fans more opportunities to watch the series live at the tracks and truly represent the category for what it is - australian and new zealand supercar championship (As such), and bring back rounds to winton etc. But in the long run I think AVESCOs plans are to build it up like the F1 of V8s. To become worldwide, or at least Asia Pacific wide. Yes, they will lose remuneration from ticket sales from all the fans in Australia who cannot attend the rounds because quite frankly they are far and few between now, let alone if more of them head offshore.

But the sponsorship monies and the television rights monies that would attract a series that goes truly international would outweigh the loss of funds from Australian attendances at Australian/NZ based rounds. Yes it sucks because we end up missing out and they seem to be capital hungry, but from a pure business and profit point of view (which is wrong in my opinion, but I dare say thats what they are looking at, the dangling carrot), the option to move further rounds overseas is tempting.

budget wise for the teams it wont mean too much of a change, they too will more than likely be able to attract larger sponsorship deals, and in regards to logistics and international travel and accommodation, as per the NZ round no doubt TC and the AVESCO crew will be looking at supplier/sponsor contracts whereas the shipping and accomodation for the rounds are paid for.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

But the sponsorship monies and the television rights monies that would attract a series that goes truly international would outweigh the loss of funds from Australian attendances.

Do you think that capturing international sponsorship monies, is likely. It not like there is a shortage of International championships at the moment.

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

budget wise for the teams it wont mean too much of a change, they too will more than likely be able to attract larger sponsorship deals.

Dick Johnson was quite vocal in saying that OS do cost the teams more. In terms of car prep, staff etc.

[dynamik gal]

It will most definitely gain more sponsorship monies, just look at how team buick has occured due to the fact that GMH is releasing a car in Asia, bingo, perfect marketing opportunities. Sponsors will definitely align themselves with a broader championship if it means their brand is sent around the region. you will get more money, for example, out of an international sponsor (which many teams already have) when they receive coverage regional or international (more than 3 countries) of their brand than in just 2 or 3 countries. therefore costings to run a team may increase, but sponsorship dollars will cover this.

[mabs_nsx]

would be as follows:
Clipsal 500, Adelaide Street Circuit
Round 01 31 Mar - 02 Apr 2006
PlaceMakers V8 International, Pukekohe Park Raceway
Round 02 14 Apr - 16 Apr 2006
Australian Grand Prix, Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit (F1)
Round 03 ?? Apr - ?? Apr 2006
Perth V8 500, Barbagallo Raceway Wanneroo
Round 04 12 May - 14 May 2006
Phillip Island, Phillip Island Grand Prix Circuit
Round 05 26 May - 28 May 2006
Indianapolis 1000, Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Round 06 02 Jun - 04 Jun 2006
Shanghai China, Shanghai International Circuit
Round 07 16 Jul - 18 Jul 2006
SKYCITY V8 Supercars Darwin, Hidden Valley Raceway
Round 08 30 Jun - 02 Jul 2006
Queensland 300, Queensland Raceway
Round 09 14 Jul - 16 Jul 2006
Oran Park, Oran Park Raceway
Round 10 28 Jul - 30 Jul 2006
Betta Electrical 500, Sandown International Raceway
Round 11 11 Aug - 13 Aug 2006
Bunbury 1000, Bunbury International Circuit
Round 12 24 Aug - 27 Aug 2006
Super Cheap Auto 24 Hour, Mount Panorama, Bathurst
Round 13 7 Sep - 10 Sep 2006
Spa-Francorchamps 300, Spa-Francorchamps Street Circuit
Round 14 22 Sep - 24 Sep 2006
Tasmania Triple Challenge, Symmons Plains Raceway
Round 15 06 Oct - 08 Oct 2006
Lexmark Indy 300, Surfers Paradise Street Circuit (CCWS)
Round 16 19 Oct - 22 Oct 2006
Eastern Creek, Eastern Creek International Raceway (A1 GP)
Round 17 ?? Nov - ?? Nov 2006

[Raglanparade]

You think having the Supertaxis at Indy so close after the INDY 500 is gonna draw crowds.

You should have a V8 Supercar International Series. I think that the 'Australiasian Season' should be raced over the summer months, with Round 1 at Bathurst in October, and then the season finale should be at Adelaide the following April.

The v8 Supercar International series would operate during our coldest winter months, and not all teams would be required to turn up. Anyone who wants to turn up.. either Supertaxi or Development series... can turn up overseas.

The overseas International Supercar series could be:

Round 1 - may - Spa
Round 2 - early june - brands hatch grand prix
Round 3 - late june - Either Indy road course or Laguna Seca
Round 4 - late july - shanghai

Chuck a couple more or couple less races in there, and you instantly have the V8 Supercar International Championship.. the teams can use old shells to race if they want..

That way, there is more races, we dont have an off-season.. and the tv money can be higher too.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

It will most definitely gain more sponsorship monies, just look at how team buick has occured due to the fact that GMH is releasing a car in Asia, bingo, perfect marketing opportunities.

I'm not fully up todate with this, but in Buick branding the car for the China race isn't it just a rebranding by General Motors, so no money is actually changing hands ?

Originally Posted by dynamik gal

Sponsors will definitely align themselves with a broader championship if it means their brand is sent around the region. you will get more money, for example, out of an international sponsor (which many teams already have).

Agree that broader exposure and reach is good for a sponsor, but do you think OS sponsors are going to back this championship on the world stage. By going global doesn't automatically means the sponsors will jump on board.

Isn't it the national arm of those companies such as Castrol supporting these teams. So by Catsrol racing competing in Greenland this isn't going to bear much ROI for the Australian arm of Castrol

[racer69]

Races in China or Dubai are hardly going to increase sponsership opportunities for the teams. All it does is allow AVESCO to say they have an international series, which may help with backing for the series....

One off races are certainly not going to attract sponsorship for Australian Teams from the countries they race in.

We have had the likes of F1, CART and WRC down here for donkey's years, and bugger all Australian money from sponsors has backed people in that. Why would an Australian company back it, the majority of the races are shown in the middle of the night here. The same would apply vice versa.

European races would only satisfy the drivers, it wouldn't make money for Tony so why would he bother?