2012 Scottish Classic Sports and Saloons

[datapost61]

Originally Posted by Derwent Motorsp

Last time I saw the "TR8"s none of them were genuine factory cars but ones built up for the racing at KH using old TR7s and Rover V8s. Not the tidiest of cars, I seem to remember the first one to appear was an ex rallycross car with it's carbs sticking through the bonnet.

Have you ever got anything positive to say? Quite pleased you stay south of the border.

[Malcolm Smith]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I think most people on here would realise that! My personal preference is to call such hybrids 'TR7V8', but you could say 'what's in a name?'.......

Malcolm, what is John Marshall up to this season?

Mike,

John Marshall is rallying a MKII Escort this season. I read recently that he had been at an event in Anglesey and saw that he was entered for
The Manx.

[Derwent Motorsp]

Originally Posted by datapost61

Have you ever got anything positive to say? Quite pleased you stay south of the border.

A bit offensive that! I speak as a Scot. Please note the Saltire! I have done a lot of my motorsport in Scotland, in speed events and racing. I think I still hold four classic class records at various venues.

As for what I said, it's purely fact. I would love to do some KH classic events if driving standards were improved and the cars were genuine historic spec!

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Derwent Motorsp

I would love to do some KH classic events if driving standards were improved and the cars were genuine historic spec!

The first part of your post has been addressed I believe, as to the latter, who cares? The series appears to attract good grids so it must be doing something right.

I speak as someone with cars built to App J Gp 1 and App K.

[datapost61]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

The first part of your post has been addressed I believe, as to the latter, who cares? The series appears to attract good grids so it must be doing something right.

I speak as someone with cars built to App J Gp 1 and App K.

Thankyou - SMRC classics isn't trying to be HSCC, there are probably not enough cars up here to fill a grid let alone have enough in each class!
There are plenty of one-make championships around to excite (or bore) spectators.
SMRC classics provides a great variety of cars for spectators to see and some close racing in and between classes. Sure it has issues within the regs - a large bank balance can produce a massively quick car, The Marshall's Escorts being a case in point, but if you are prepared to invest (and race at virtually one circuit all season) then surely you deserve success. It also provides opportunities for newcomers like myself, with a decent (non grp 1) set of carbs and a bit of work then a lot cars can be in the mix. No-one wants to be at the back of the race or class all the time knowing that their car is 'period'.
For those that can't afford an original race classic, or fund tours of the UK and and European circuits, SMRC classics is a great place. The expanding grids, variey of cars and the fact we have now been invited to support TWO BTCC rounds this season is testament to its popularity with drivers and spectators alike.

PS DM - I am an englishman in scotland enjoying SMRC classics so dont assume my comments are nationalistic and I'll not assume MGCC regs include the requirement for a beard

[Peter Mallett]

Actually it's a beard and a pipe.

[Malcolm Smith]

Twenty-two Scottish Classic competitors have entered two races at the BRSCC Meeting at Oulton Park on Saturday 2nd June. Looking forward to an exciting day - timetable :

http://www.brscc.co.uk/assets/timeta...---issue-2.pdf

[Malcolm Smith]

Nineteen cars qualified for the Scottish Classics visit to Oulton Park on 2nd June, in wet conditions which some drivers found
rather difficult. A twentieth, the Porsche 911 of Raymond Boyd, was able to start race one from the back of the grid, following
alternator problems prior to qualifying. More entrants were expected, however, mechanical failures during Friday testing reduced
numbers.

Regular winner, Andy Smith, had little difficulty winning both races in his Morgan +8.
Invitation class entrant, David Holroyd, Lotus Elan 26R, came second in race one and fourth in race two.
Robert Marshall, Ford Escort came home with two third places, especially enjoying a very close battle with Holroyd in race one.
Boyd climbed to fourth in race one and finished two seconds behind Smith in the second outing, just ahead of Marshall.

Further down the order, Nic Boyes, Mini Cooper, and Keiron Baillie, Ford Escort, fought very hard over seventh place in race one.
Boyes had a similarly intense race two, on this occasion with Robin Benn, Ford Capri.

The next two rounds are at Croft on 23rd and 24th June, part of the BTCC weekend.

Gallery

David Scott – Porsche 924
Rodger Motherwell – Alfasud Sprint
Robert Marshall – Ford Escort RS1800
Race One – lap one
Dave Beecroft - Triumph Dolomite Sprint
David Holroyd – Lotus Elan 26R

[Malcolm Smith]

Scottish Classics on ITV4 today, 17.55h, live from Croft.

[datapost61]

Wish I was there!
Engine only came off the dyno on Thursday morning, all day to get it in the found the water pump was knackered and it still wasn't running right.

Can't afford another blowup and a bit of a trek for testing!

Watching from the sofa - keep an eye out for last years Class A winner Rodger Motherwell in #68 orange Alfasud Sprint. A lot of work done over the winter.

Oulton was a test and Rodger took 3 seconds off his quali time to finish 2nd/3rd in class in yesterday's race. (Not sure if the caterham is points scoring).

A couple of tweaks this morning, target is to beat Nic Boyes' green mini.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Smith

Scottish Classics on ITV4 today, 17.55h, live from Croft.

Managed to catch the coverage and very impressed with the well informed and knowledgeable commentators! Was it in the script for the TR to lose it on the last lap?

Learned more about the corners and lines than when watching the BTCC drivers.

[brakedisc]

Good coverage.

Good also to see that the driver that caused havoc at the first round of the year ( points on his licence ) has lost none of his ability. How many times did he spin?

[Malcolm Smith]

Originally Posted by datapost61

Wish I was there!
Engine only came off the dyno on Thursday morning, all day to get it in the found the water pump was knackered and it still wasn't running right.

Can't afford another blowup and a bit of a trek for testing!

Watching from the sofa - keep an eye out for last years Class A winner Rodger Motherwell in #68 orange Alfasud Sprint. A lot of work done over the winter.

Oulton was a test and Rodger took 3 seconds off his quali time to finish 2nd/3rd in class in yesterday's race. (Not sure if the caterham is points scoring).

A couple of tweaks this morning, target is to beat Nic Boyes' green mini.

Sorry to hear that your return to the track has been delayed - look forward to seeing you at Knockhill in August.

[Malcolm Smith]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Managed to catch the coverage and very impressed with the well informed and knowledgeable commentators! Was it in the script for the TR to lose it on the last lap?

Learned more about the corners and lines than when watching the BTCC drivers.

Mike, I fully agree, excellent commentary from Richard John Neil. He hosted the Scottish Classics race from Knockhill during last September's ITV4 BTCC programme and I imagine will do the same this August. Similarly high standard from co-commentator Vic Covey - a tireless worker in Scottish motorsport for many years.

Very unfortunate last lap spin for Mark Campbell - he had looked fairly comfortable until then. I was sure he was going to repeat the win which he took the last time he appeared in this championship, in 2010.

[Derwent Motorsp]

Sadly the BTCC from Sunday does not appear on ITV Player. I wonder why.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Smith

Very unfortunate last lap spin for Mark Campbell.

Unless you were a Morgan driver.........

The ITVPlayer is still showing highlights from last BTCC round at Oulton, so guess Croft won't feature until that has ended its run. I assume they don't show all the support races as it is only 'highlights'?

[repairman]

I have many more, if you want a specific car picture, I'll see if I have one

[Alan Raine]

Sorry to miss this thread, but I thought the Scottish Classics and Mini Coopers at Oulton Park were bloody great



More pictures here with all the other stuff racing. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alansar...th/7156178663/

[Malcolm Smith]

Originally Posted by repairman

I have many more, if you want a specific car picture, I'll see if I have one

Great to see your photos - there aren't any that I'm particularly looking for - but am always especially pleased to see Escorts and Capris.

[Malcolm Smith]

Originally Posted by Alan Raine

Sorry to miss this thread, but I thought the Scottish Classics and Mini Coopers at Oulton Park were bloody great



More pictures here with all the other stuff racing. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alansar...th/7156178663/

Super collection of photos, thanks for the link. Great to hear that you enjoyed the races.

[Malcolm Smith]

Croft

Twenty-five entrants encountered conditions from monsoon to dry and sunny during their visit to the Croft BTCC event on 23/24 June.
Race one saw a considerable number of retirements – sixteen finishers, headed by Andy Smith’s Morgan +8. Invitation Class entrants
Mark Campbell, Triumph TR5 and Russell Paterson, Morgan +8 were second and third. The same cars made-up the top three in race
two, on that occasion Paterson led Smith, with the unlucky Campbell third, having spun whilst leading on the final lap.
Several of the retirees from race one were able to repair their cars – a total of twenty completing the second outing of the weekend.
Joint championship leaders, Robert Marshall and Nic Boyes, both won their class in each race.

The next two rounds are at Kirkistown on 21st July.

[repairman]

[Malcolm Smith]

Next two rounds at Kirkistown on Saturday 21st July - fifteen entries so far, hopefully more to be added.

[Malcolm Smith]

Kirkistown

Andy Smith (Morgan +8) maintained his excellent form, winning both rounds. On each occasion he was followed by
Robert Marshall (Ford Escort). Porsche 911s took third – Stan Bernard in the first race and Raymond Boyd in the second.

Class B cars of Kieron Baillie (Ford Escort) and Tim Reid (Marcos) performed well – Baillie managing to head Reid by less than a second
at the end of each race.
The Mini Cooper of Nic Boyes was top Class A car – he maintains his close battle at the head of the championship with Smith and Marshall.

Knockhill is the venue for the next two races, on August 12th.

[Malcolm Smith]

Exciting competition throughout the eighteen car field provided great entertainment
for the crowd at Knockhill on 12th August. Robert Marshall and Shonny Paterson put up a strong challenge – however,
regular victor, Andy Smith, triumphed on both occasions. Paterson had fastest lap in both races – both he and Marshall must
think that they could have a race win in the near future.

The Class B battle between Kieron Baillie and Tim Reid resumed, joined by Bruce Weir’s Lotus Sunbeam.
Two seconds separated these drivers at the end of race two.

Class A had two first time winners in 2012, in race one Ian Blacklin (Ford Fiesta) and George Leitch, also in a Fiesta, in race two.
Regular Class A leader, Nic Boyes, finished further back, hindered by clutch problems.
The return of Fiesta61, mentioned earlier in this thread, was hampered by electrical gremlins.

Marshall and Smith jointly lead the championship, with Boyes third.

A full grid of thirty-two cars is expected at Knockhill on 25th and 26th August when Scottish Classics support the BTCC.

Photos
Kieron Ballie, Bruce Weir , Tim Reid
Ian Morton leads Alan Barron
Jimmy Crow – Escort, Stan Bernard - Porsche
Raymond Boyd – Porsche 911
Shonny Paterson – TR7 V8
Ian Blacklin – Fiesta