|
|||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
29 Nov 2008, 22:31 (Ref:2344027) | #26 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,789
|
I have freeveiw and I should get Eurosport, but i dont, I have no signal from it apparantly.. ITV4 show the occasional race a week after.
|
||
__________________
'My lovely horse, running through the fields! Where are you going, with your fetlocks blowing in the wind?' |
29 Nov 2008, 22:39 (Ref:2344032) | #27 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 682
|
Quote:
|
|||
__________________
Taki Inoue, the only driver in F1 history who's been driven into by a course car, twice! |
30 Nov 2008, 08:02 (Ref:2344132) | #28 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,589
|
I like that they call it "Free" view
|
||
__________________
Le Mans Christian Bakkerud, Team Kolles Formula Renault 2.0 NEC Mikkel Mac DTC Martin Marrill, M-Sport |
30 Nov 2008, 10:44 (Ref:2344168) | #29 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,100
|
Aslak, Freeview is a system which is free to air channels (20 worth watching) over digital terrestrial. No subscription, boxes start at £30 or so. Not everywhere in the country can get a good signal, there's one mux that I can't get too good a signal on.
|
||
__________________
Marbot : "Ironically, the main difference between a Red Bull and a Virgin is that Red Bull can make parts of its car smaller and floppier." |
1 Dec 2008, 17:55 (Ref:2345068) | #30 | |||
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 164
|
Quote:
|
|||
__________________
It doesn't matter who you are, or where you are from. All that matters is that you do not post spam on these forums. |
1 Dec 2008, 18:06 (Ref:2345077) | #31 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 11,301
|
Quote:
I've heard pops and bangs on downshifts and upshifts from touring cars, rally cars and single seaters. |
|||
|
2 Dec 2008, 10:00 (Ref:2345517) | #32 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,545
|
Quote:
In the old days, there might be some system that turns off ignition for a split second, to ease changing gears quickly, and unburnt fuel igniting in the exhaust. Though dont think anything like that would still be used on a modern TC (more linked to old carburettor tech than modern fuel injection). But I guess there should be some mechanics around here able to answer in more detail. |
||
|
2 Dec 2008, 10:59 (Ref:2345574) | #33 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,589
|
Quote:
When it hits the hot exhaust, it ignites. We have it on our 2008 Leon. On the older Leons, there is a cut-off switch instead, and that sounds so much more violent. Last edited by Aslak Vind; 2 Dec 2008 at 11:04. |
|||
__________________
Le Mans Christian Bakkerud, Team Kolles Formula Renault 2.0 NEC Mikkel Mac DTC Martin Marrill, M-Sport |
2 Dec 2008, 12:35 (Ref:2345626) | #34 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,545
|
Quote:
|
||
|
2 Dec 2008, 12:48 (Ref:2345632) | #35 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,706
|
Is unburnt fuel not very harmfull for the cathalysator?
|
||
|
2 Dec 2008, 14:15 (Ref:2345685) | #36 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,545
|
Quote:
|
||
|
2 Dec 2008, 15:07 (Ref:2345717) | #37 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,589
|
We run with racing cats, encountering just that
|
||
__________________
Le Mans Christian Bakkerud, Team Kolles Formula Renault 2.0 NEC Mikkel Mac DTC Martin Marrill, M-Sport |
2 Dec 2008, 16:55 (Ref:2345782) | #38 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 164
|
thanks for the answers
|
||
__________________
It doesn't matter who you are, or where you are from. All that matters is that you do not post spam on these forums. |
4 Dec 2008, 03:41 (Ref:2347003) | #39 | |||
Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 36
|
Quote:
Bring back the saloons! Logically speaking, the S2000 regulations which is less costly than Super Touring, could have been the catalyst to attract more manufacturers, strangely it wasn't to be. Looks like it could never achieve the same heights as the Super Touring era.. Last edited by jaybond; 4 Dec 2008 at 03:43. |
|||
|
4 Dec 2008, 03:42 (Ref:2347004) | #40 | |||
Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 36
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
4 Dec 2008, 06:55 (Ref:2347025) | #41 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,589
|
Quote:
|
|||
__________________
Le Mans Christian Bakkerud, Team Kolles Formula Renault 2.0 NEC Mikkel Mac DTC Martin Marrill, M-Sport |
4 Dec 2008, 08:03 (Ref:2347050) | #42 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,264
|
We should have the old pre-wings Super Touring cars. I really enjoyed the wings years of the BTCC but it's perhaps a tad too expensive with all the aero. A second class to replace the Leon's should be a sort of Sport Hatch class somewhere between Class B and BTC-T.
|
|
__________________
Michael Delaney was wrong. In between is not waiting - in between is the glory, the passion. In between is what elevates racing. |
4 Dec 2008, 08:14 (Ref:2347056) | #43 | ||
Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 36
|
So this system is causing pops & bang during every gearshift.
I've never attended any WTCC race before (Sepang never hosted), but last time I attended the SuperGT, I noticed the GT500 Nissans did emit that kind of noise every gearshift (but more like kaboom! sound), so I supposed it's the same thing. |
||
|
4 Dec 2008, 09:23 (Ref:2347086) | #44 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 4,380
|
Probably. It's also called 'spark cut' sometimes, or 'flat-shift'. As mentioned previously, fuel still goes in during a gear change, but the ECU doesn't generate the sparks to ignite the fuel. This means unburnt fuel enters the exhaust system, where it ignites on the host pipes, causing a bang/pop and perhaps some flames, which are always nice - see V8 Supercars
|
||
__________________
This planet is mildly noted for its hoopy casinos. |
4 Dec 2008, 10:26 (Ref:2347113) | #45 | ||
Subscriber
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,615
|
As for the original question, I would say: Yes, it could be with some modifications.
Which modifications? These: 1 - Introduce common parts. Wheels, hubs, gearbox, electronics, etc. 2 - Introduce strict engine development rules. Longer durability, etc. 3 - Introduce strict aerodynamic development rules. I would say that these changes could get ST a long way. It was, as "Flash" said, a shame that they didn't introduce similar changes as mentioned above instead of just killing the rules. What we got instead was a good idea on paper, but S2000 has been destroyed by politics among manufacturers and FIA. As Aslak and Nigel has mentioned, the cars today are very expensive to squeeze the last bit out of due to the rules. They are not far from the Super Touring-cars cost wise, especially on the engine lasting/renovation-side. Taking up the well-developed Super Touring-rules, adding some modifications to keep the costs down and durability up, would, IMHO, give great racing and some great looking cars. On the contrary to what we have today. |
||
|
4 Dec 2008, 13:32 (Ref:2347248) | #46 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 8,977
|
Quote:
|
||
|
4 Dec 2008, 13:42 (Ref:2347261) | #47 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,589
|
Sound a bit like the rules from DTM
|
||
__________________
Le Mans Christian Bakkerud, Team Kolles Formula Renault 2.0 NEC Mikkel Mac DTC Martin Marrill, M-Sport |
4 Dec 2008, 14:40 (Ref:2347302) | #48 | |||
Subscriber
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,615
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
4 Dec 2008, 14:46 (Ref:2347306) | #49 | ||||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,335
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||||
|
4 Dec 2008, 15:01 (Ref:2347315) | #50 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,589
|
Quote:
The DTM has loads of spec parts, to lower the price of the car. I think that would be a way to adress the cost issue. |
|||
__________________
Le Mans Christian Bakkerud, Team Kolles Formula Renault 2.0 NEC Mikkel Mac DTC Martin Marrill, M-Sport |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
SuperTouring Vs New BTCC | ADnet | Touring Car Racing | 13 | 5 Jun 2003 08:14 |
SuperTouring web site | supertouring | Cool Sites | 10 | 15 May 2003 15:42 |
BMW 3 series (Supertouring) | alesi95 | Motorsport History | 1 | 27 Jun 2002 12:24 |