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Old 15 Sep 2007, 00:15 (Ref:2013254)   #26
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Old 17 Sep 2007, 09:46 (Ref:2015440)   #27
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Turkington will run as car # 27, he is not classified as an independent.
Why would that be? It's a shame. I think in the independents-trophy Turkington would be a contender for a win, which I don't think he is in the overall classification.
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Old 17 Sep 2007, 11:54 (Ref:2015560)   #28
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Turkington is definitely a contender for an overall win....they wouldn't be bothering otherwise.
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Old 17 Sep 2007, 16:56 (Ref:2015932)   #29
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Why would that be?
Good question. They had been getting some assistance from BMW, but that was no more than would have been available to anyone else who wanted to pay for it and not enough to lose BTCC independent status.

WTCC does have the odd quirk over indie status, remember GR Asia/Tom Coronel. Maybe they though the combination of Turkington and WSR similarly fell outside the indie guidelines.

Tough to predict how well Turkington will do. He's always done well at Brands, although that's never been on the GP layout. WSR have no experience of Advan tyres but I would assume (hope) they will get some data/help from BMW.
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Old 18 Sep 2007, 08:18 (Ref:2016533)   #30
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Maybe the tyre data is what takes them out of Independent status?
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Old 18 Sep 2007, 10:34 (Ref:2016683)   #31
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Maybe the tyre data is what takes them out of Independent status?
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BTCC uses Dunlop instead of Yokohama so IMO there's no advantage for him.
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Old 18 Sep 2007, 11:31 (Ref:2016760)   #32
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Boots would be referring to the though that perhaps BMW will give them a helping hand with tyre info.
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Old 18 Sep 2007, 15:09 (Ref:2017027)   #33
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I read somewhere that they had been testing at Snetterton with the Advans?
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Old 18 Sep 2007, 18:38 (Ref:2017239)   #34
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Or maybe the FIA thinks that WSR will be much better than the indies and doesn't want them to take points away from the regulars. Their definition of who is an independent and who is not is very lax.
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Old 18 Sep 2007, 22:13 (Ref:2017477)   #35
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Or maybe the FIA thinks that WSR will be much better than the indies and doesn't want them to take points away from the regulars. Their definition of who is an independent and who is not is very lax.
No reason for them to care - not as though they're going to do anything about an independant title in just two races.
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Old 19 Sep 2007, 08:03 (Ref:2017650)   #36
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Maybe, but the money to be won by the best independent could be a nice bonus.
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Old 19 Sep 2007, 12:08 (Ref:2017865)   #37
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So how many laps is it of the GP circuit this weekend, 2, 3?

The short races really are beginning to grate on me.
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Old 20 Sep 2007, 14:38 (Ref:2018956)   #38
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1 race is about 50km. I believe that Brands GP is about 3,7km? So 14-15 laps
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Old 20 Sep 2007, 16:02 (Ref:2019032)   #39
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1 race is about 50km. I believe that Brands GP is about 3,7km? So 14-15 laps
15 probably. I mean, isn't Valencia longer? I don't have an issue with the current race lengths, although I am partial to a BTCC style 3 race setup.
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Old 20 Sep 2007, 16:58 (Ref:2019059)   #40
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It's 14 laps
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Old 21 Sep 2007, 14:59 (Ref:2019744)   #41
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To answer my own question from earlier, it's not that Turkington classified as an independent, isn't eligible to score ANY points at Brands. The car is running with an X-Trac sequential gearbox, which means it runs under local homologation rules, which in turns means no points.

Also Sergey Krylov is a late replacement for Timur Sadredinov in the third GR Asia car. Sadredinov had what was described as a "trivial passport problem".
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Old 21 Sep 2007, 17:19 (Ref:2019900)   #42
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To answer my own question from earlier, it's not that Turkington classified as an independent, isn't eligible to score ANY points at Brands. The car is running with an X-Trac sequential gearbox, which means it runs under local homologation rules, which in turns means no points.
Like Rosenberg (I assume it's the same car as Turkington) and Dahlgren.
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Old 21 Sep 2007, 17:35 (Ref:2019909)   #43
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Old 22 Sep 2007, 09:11 (Ref:2020294)   #44
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Ouch, Thommo and Turkington top the time sheets in first practice - could be time for the old guard

Krylov's 5s slower than the car in front of him...surely GR Asia could pull off a better last minute replacement?
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Ouch, Thommo and Turkington top the time sheets in first practice - could be time for the old guard

Krylov's 5s slower than the car in front of him...surely GR Asia could pull off a better last minute replacement?
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Thommo again in practice 2, from Corthals

(Fixed from earlier - lazy timing screen)
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Practice 1
POS NO CL DRIVER NATCAR TIME LAPS GAP KPH
1 15 James THOMPSON GBRAlfa Romeo 156 1:33.576 11 142.46
2 27 Colin TURKINGTON GBRBMW 320si 1:33.590 14 0.014 142.43
3 18 Tiago MONTEIRO PORSEAT Leon 1:33.851 11 0.275 142.04
4 1 Andy PRIAULX GBRBMW 320si 1:33.875 15 0.299 142.00
5 8 Alain MENU SUIChevrolet Lacetti 1:33.988 9 0.412 141.83
6 3 Augusto FARFUS BRABMW 320si 1:34.002 18 0.426 141.81
7 2 Jorg MULLER GERBMW 320si 1:34.043 14 0.467 141.75
8 12 Yvan MULLER FRASEAT Leon TDI 1:34.214 10 0.638 141.49
9 20 Tom CORONEL NEDSEAT Leon 1:34.329 16 0.753 141.32
10 9 Jordi GENE ESPSEAT Leon TDI 1:34.412 11 0.836 141.19
11 30 I Luca RANGONI ITABMW 320si 1:34.451 15 0.875 141.14
12 11 Gabriele TARQUINI ITASEAT Leon 1:34.493 12 0.917 141.07
13 5 Felix PORTEIRO ESPBMW 320si 1:34.519 17 0.943 141.03
14 6 Robert HUFF GBRChevrolet Lacetti 1:34.542 11 0.966 141.00
15 7 Nicola LARINI ITAChevrolet Lacetti 1:34.568 11 0.992 140.96
16 26 I Stefano D'ASTE ITABMW 320si 1:34.662 16 1.086 140.82
17 23 I Pierre-Yves CORTHALS BELSEAT Leon 1:34.688 14 1.112 140.78
18 34 I Massimiliano PEDALA ITASEAT Leon 1:34.775 15 1.199 140.65
19 4 Alessandro ZANARDI ITABMW 320si 1:34.818 15 1.242 140.59
20 19 I Roberto COLCIAGO ITASEAT Leon 1:34.853 15 1.277 140.54
21 16 Olivier TIELEMANS NEDAlfa Romeo 156 1:34.999 16 1.423 140.32
22 10 Michel JOURDAIN MEXSEAT Leon 1:35.023 14 1.447 140.29
23 31 I Sergio HERNANDEZ ESPBMW 320si 1:35.094 16 1.518 140.18
24 22 I Maurizio CERESOLI ITASEAT Leon 1:36.449 13 2.873 138.21
25 45 I Sergey KRYLOV RUSSEAT Leon 1:41.418 13 7.842 131.44
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POS NO CL DRIVER NAT CAR TIME LAPS GAP KPH
1 15 James THOMPSON GBR Alfa Romeo 156 1:33.518 14 142.54
2 23 I Pierre-Yves CORTHALS BEL SEAT Leon 1:33.832 14 0.314 142.07
3 8 Alain MENU SUI Chevrolet Lacetti 1:33.847 9 0.329 142.04
4 3 Augusto FARFUS BRA BMW 320si 1:33.939 16 0.421 141.90
5 1 Andy PRIAULX GBR BMW 320si 1:34.044 14 0.526 141.75
6 2 Jorg MULLER GER BMW 320si 1:34.153 15 0.635 141.58
7 18 Tiago MONTEIRO POR SEAT Leon 1:34.253 13 0.735 141.43
8 6 Robert HUFF GBR Chevrolet Lacetti 1:34.260 13 0.742 141.42
9 27 Colin TURKINGTON GBR BMW 320si 1:34.341 10 0.823 141.30
10 30 I Luca RANGONI ITA BMW 320si 1:34.536 15 1.018 141.01
11 5 Felix PORTEIRO ESP BMW 320si 1:34.620 15 1.102 140.88
12 7 Nicola LARINI ITA Chevrolet Lacetti 1:34.651 11 1.133 140.84
13 10 Michel JOURDAIN MEX SEAT Leon 1:34.718 11 1.200 140.74
14 4 Alessandro ZANARDI ITA BMW 320si 1:34.749 14 1.231 140.69
15 20 Tom CORONEL NED SEAT Leon 1:34.757 15 1.239 140.68
16 19 I Roberto COLCIAGO ITA SEAT Leon 1:34.807 14 1.289 140.61
17 12 Yvan MULLER FRA SEAT Leon TDI 1:34.813 13 1.295 140.60
18 11 Gabriele TARQUINI ITA SEAT Leon 1:34.887 13 1.369 140.49
19 16 Olivier TIELEMANS NED Alfa Romeo 156 1:34.996 14 1.478 140.33
20 22 I Maurizio CERESOLI ITA SEAT Leon 1:35.038 13 1.520 140.26
21 31 I Sergio HERNANDEZ ESP BMW 320si 1:35.354 17 1.836 139.80
22 9 Jordi GENE ESP SEAT Leon TDI 1:35.363 5 1.845 139.79
23 26 I Stefano D'ASTE ITA BMW 320si 1:35.388 8 1.870 139.75
24 34 I Massimiliano PEDALA ITA SEAT Leon 1:35.463 13 1.945 139.64
25 45 I Sergey KRYLOV RUS SEAT Leon 1:38.888 13 5.370 134.80
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