The General PI help thread - Page 2

Chris Y · 20 Apr 2011, 09:03 (Ref:2866839)

I've merged a couple of PI threads into one, to stop this forum becoming the PI support forum

Please post questions/answers about PI toolbox here, and nowhere else.

Matti Allemakki · 20 Apr 2011, 09:14 (Ref:2866844)

Hello,

In our championship we need to make pitstop that last a certain period of time. Now we are working with a stopwatch mounted on the steering wheel. I want to make a math channel that starts a timer at the moment the driver pushes the pit limiter button. I want to place the outcome of this channel as an alarm or something in the display so we can remove the stopwatch and make it easier for the driver.

This for PI offcourse

Matti

greenamex2 · 20 Apr 2011, 09:21 (Ref:2866846)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Allemakki

Hello,

In our championship we need to make pitstop that last a certain period of time. Now we are working with a stopwatch mounted on the steering wheel. I want to make a math channel that starts a timer at the moment the driver pushes the pit limiter button. I want to place the outcome of this channel as an alarm or something in the display so we can remove the stopwatch and make it easier for the driver.

This for PI offcourse

Matti

PI Toolbox generally works from downloads after the event and so would not be of much use. Are you using telemetry?

Matti Allemakki · 20 Apr 2011, 10:14 (Ref:2866863)

Hello,

we are not working with telemetry. I thought that i could create a alarm channel activated by the pit limiter. and display thie "alarm" in the display. Maybe there is an outcome with a GPS beacon?

Matti

greenamex2 · 20 Apr 2011, 10:17 (Ref:2866864)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Allemakki

Hello,

we are not working with telemetry. I thought that i could create a alarm channel activated by the pit limiter. and display thie "alarm" in the display. Maybe there is an outcome with a GPS beacon?

Matti

So this isn't a PI Toolbox question but an ECU/Data logger/dash question.

What ECU/Data logger/dash are you running?

Matti Allemakki · 20 Apr 2011, 10:54 (Ref:2866880)

We use the sigma logger with the steering wheel dash. ECU is from Bosch. we drive a Corvette...

greenamex2 · 20 Apr 2011, 11:32 (Ref:2866911)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Allemakki

We use the sigma logger with the steering wheel dash. ECU is from Bosch. we drive a Corvette...

Sorry, I use a compact logger with a Omega dash and Pectel T6 ECU so am of no help whatsoever.

bf1 · 21 Apr 2011, 15:03 (Ref:2867568)

Should be using either Pi Workshop or Pi Delta for setting up your dash surely..

Yuri · 17 May 2011, 07:46 (Ref:2881473)

Hi!
I'd like to create a channel whit Pi-Math for show the total distance covered by the car in a race in first gear, if it's possible, is there someone able to explain me the code?
Sorry for the bad english but I'm still learnig

Thanks!
Yuri

CJCA · 19 Jul 2011, 13:04 (Ref:2928557)

Hello to all,

I am after a download/setup file for the Pi Toolbox Data Program. I cant seem to find it on Pi Research website, and was wondering if anyone on here could shed some light

Thanks in advance

Chris

greenamex2 · 19 Jul 2011, 17:43 (Ref:2928655)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJCA

Hello to all,

I am after a download/setup file for the Pi Toolbox Data Program. I cant seem to find it on Pi Research website, and was wondering if anyone on here could shed some light

Thanks in advance

Chris

Do you mean the install program for PI Toolbox?

Chris Wilson · 23 Jul 2011, 16:50 (Ref:2930160)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJCA

Hello to all,

I am after a download/setup file for the Pi Toolbox Data Program. I cant seem to find it on Pi Research website, and was wondering if anyone on here could shed some light

Thanks in advance

Chris

I rang them up and they gave me a log in name and password for their FTP site, allowing me to download the (big) file. It may be very powerful, but it certainly is nothing like as intuitive as Motec's i2 or GEMS' GDA data analysis stuff. I have yet to get it to do much....

sebring115 · 3 Aug 2011, 21:20 (Ref:2935561)

Will it work or do I have to install XP, which I hear is a bit of a pain?

Any ideas?

Cheers

Mark

greenamex2 · 5 Aug 2011, 15:51 (Ref:2936172)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebring115

Will it work or do I have to install XP, which I hear is a bit of a pain?

Any ideas?

Cheers

Mark

Works fine under Windows 7.

And under Linux using Wine.

Goes for both PI Toolbox and Club Expert.

The only product I have had to use under XP (usually running on VMware under Linux) is the ECU software, but that is because I have an ancient ECU (Pectel T6, still better than most of the modern stuff though)!.

And installing XP under VMware Player is dead easy.

Matti Allemakki · 6 Aug 2011, 07:09 (Ref:2936365)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebz

http://blackboard.smu.ac.uk/@@B49222...tribution.pptx

if you can download that file it might help you, its pretty simply explained. hope its the right stuff

Could you place the link again? this one isnt working anymore.

many thanks

sebring115 · 6 Aug 2011, 17:49 (Ref:2936499)

OK

So ive fallen at the next hurdle, I cant talk to the logger. The USB adaptor worked fine with the old XP PC, but I remember I had to have it in the right USB. How do I tell PI (or the computer) which USB port to use?

Cheers

Mark

Matti Allemakki · 6 Aug 2011, 17:57 (Ref:2936503)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebring115

OK

So ive fallen at the next hurdle, I cant talk to the logger. The USB adaptor worked fine with the old XP PC, but I remember I had to have it in the right USB. How do I tell PI (or the computer) which USB port to use?

Cheers

Mark

We downgraded our laptop as well (windows 7 to XP) after doing that we couldnt get connection to the dingle as well. I think you need an PI field update on the dongle. you should contact PI.at least worked with our system..

sebring115 · 7 Aug 2011, 20:31 (Ref:2936963)

Managed to get the laptop to set my logger up and watch channels with Win 7 yesterday. I had forgotten that the PI software cd is version 1.1, but there used to be download on the Pi website (for Xp at the time) and this was ver 1.3. Put this on the Win 7 machine and it worked first time.

Cheers

Mark

Mark_F · 9 Aug 2011, 05:21 (Ref:2937509)

If anyone in North America needs some assistance with Pi Sigma, Workshop, or Toolbox, please shoot me an email and I will do the best to assist you.

Thank you,
Mark
Cosworth

tristancliffe · 9 Aug 2011, 08:52 (Ref:2937561)

Just be thankful you're not having to use Analysis V6, which requires a Windows 98 laptop!!!

Chris Wilson · 9 Aug 2011, 09:05 (Ref:2937571)

To go somewhat off topic, has anyone experience of setting up CAN and sensor settings in either GEMS data loggers (DA99-L2) or display dashes? I am struggling, really struggling....

Thanks

greenamex2 · 9 Aug 2011, 17:24 (Ref:2937703)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristancliffe

Just be thankful you're not having to use Analysis V6, which requires a Windows 98 laptop!!!

I run V6 quite happily under Windows 7. Didn't even have to mess around with compatibility settings.

Don't use it much now since I worked out how to get data from the Compact Logger directly into PI Toolbox rather than converting from Expert.

tristancliffe · 9 Aug 2011, 20:34 (Ref:2937784)

My Version 6 won't even consider installing, even with compatibility modes, on Windows 7. And even then, it won't talk to the dongle which requires pre-XP drivers... Using it with a System 4 logger, which is a bit ancient!!!

greenamex2 · 10 Aug 2011, 14:24 (Ref:2938121)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristancliffe

My Version 6 won't even consider installing, even with compatibility modes, on Windows 7. And even then, it won't talk to the dongle which requires pre-XP drivers... Using it with a System 4 logger, which is a bit ancient!!!

What version of Version 6 do you have?

As for the dongles, half the time they are just industry standard chipsets and the driver for the dongle is available elsewhere (take note anyone that has a Stack USB to CAN adaptor and believe they need to upgrade to a later version of Datapro for Windows Vista/7). Using this and VMware, even if the software doesn't run on your preferred OS you can usually 'bodge it' so at least you don't need an extra laptop to lug around.

350LH · 11 Aug 2011, 15:20 (Ref:2938535)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denis Bassom

What version of Version 6 do you have?

As for the dongles, half the time they are just industry standard chipsets and the driver for the dongle is available elsewhere (take note anyone that has a Stack USB to CAN adaptor and believe they need to upgrade to a later version of Datapro for Windows Vista/7). Using this and VMware, even if the software doesn't run on your preferred OS you can usually 'bodge it' so at least you don't need an extra laptop to lug around.

I still have a System 3+ in my car, and run the version 6 software on my XP laptop. I've found the best way to do it is to use Vmware Workstation that allows me to host a virtual windows 98 machine which connects to the physical parallel port with the PiDD connected. Works without a problem.

I cant confirm (as I havnt tested yet) but I would think this same config should work on a windows 7 lappie although you would probably need a usb to parallel converter as most current laptops dont have one anymore.

Sam

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