Michelin Le Mans Cup - Page 2

Deleted · 26 Jan 2016, 20:40 (Ref:3608257)

Hope not.

Bcarr6 · 26 Jan 2016, 21:40 (Ref:3608284)

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Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

Will LMP3 and GT3 be balanced in performance. Would a car in either category have a shot at the overall win? I've heard nothing of this yet.

They should only be BOPd to their own class rules, meaning they may interfere a little, track dependent.

Anyone know the average top speed of a GT3 vs LMP3? Guess this will count for a lot in the LM support race?

Mike E · 27 Jan 2016, 12:37 (Ref:3608431)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

They should only be BOPd to their own class rules, meaning they may interfere a little, track dependent.

Anyone know the average top speed of a GT3 vs LMP3? Guess this will count for a lot in the LM support race?

Good question.

Top speeds from Paul Ricard round of ELMS last year (chosen because of its long straight):

LMP3 286.5 Ginetta
LMP3 285.0 Ginetta
LMP3 285.0 Ginetta
GTC 285.0 Ferrari
GTC 285.0 Ferrari
GTC 284.2 Ferrari
LMP3 283.5 Ginetta
GTC 282.7 Aston
GTC 279.1 BMW

And Estoril
GTC 264.8 Ferrari
LMP3 260.4 Ginetta
LMP3 260.4 Ginetta
LMP3 259.2 Ginetta
LMP3 259.2 Ginetta
GTC 259.2 Ferrari
GTC 258.0 Ferrari
GTC 257.4 Aston
GTC 256.8 Aston
LMP3 255.0 Ligier
GTC 255.0 BMW

Deleted · 27 Jan 2016, 13:11 (Ref:3608443)

Despite having Mistral PR probably is not the greatest comparison piece considering even LMP2s have sucked hard there against the LMGTE top speeds for the last couple of years, yet easily overpowering em at Le Mans.

Bcarr6 · 27 Jan 2016, 13:57 (Ref:3608450)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike E

Good question.

Top speeds from Paul Ricard round of ELMS last year (chosen because of its long straight):

LMP3 286.5 Ginetta

LMP3 285.0 Ginetta

LMP3 285.0 Ginetta

GTC 285.0 Ferrari

GTC 285.0 Ferrari

GTC 284.2 Ferrari

LMP3 283.5 Ginetta

GTC 282.7 Aston

GTC 279.1 BMW

And Estoril

GTC 264.8 Ferrari

LMP3 260.4 Ginetta

LMP3 260.4 Ginetta

LMP3 259.2 Ginetta

LMP3 259.2 Ginetta

GTC 259.2 Ferrari

GTC 258.0 Ferrari

GTC 257.4 Aston

GTC 256.8 Aston

LMP3 255.0 Ligier

GTC 255.0 BMW

Pretty close then, just from a very basic comparison.

I'd still put my money on GT3 cars bringing better lap times at LM. Nothing more than a hunch though

Deleted · 27 Jan 2016, 14:11 (Ref:3608456)

You would think they'd want to keep the "LM" product in front of SRO property category by any means necessary, and certainly at their headquarters of operations in front of all the crowds. They're treating GT3 just as being 'stepping stone' for LMGTE anyway. Cry screams from the GT3 teams can be avoided by clearly stating the LMP3 performance intentions in the brochure... and by saying you cannot win with GT car outright anywhere else within our realm either. It may be a guest category just joining in with the regular grid, but so was ILMC to the LMS and ALMS, and it paid out greatly.

Lack of noise from the GT3 front seem to suggest lackluster grids outside Le Mans, but I guess it's still January so there's time. Not that it matters to me since the LM round is all I'm interested in.

Mike E · 1 Feb 2016, 19:38 (Ref:3610673)

TF Sport Aston for LM GT3 Cup, as well as British GT and Intl GT Open.

http://www.planetlemans.com/2016/02/...european-tour/

Bcarr6 · 4 Feb 2016, 14:58 (Ref:3611589)

AF Corse bringing 3 cars, likely 458s

Mike Hedlund · 4 Feb 2016, 16:55 (Ref:3611621)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

AF Corse bringing 3 cars, likely 458s

They have new 488's.

-mike

Bcarr6 · 4 Feb 2016, 18:07 (Ref:3611631)

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Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

They have new 488's.

-mike

Awesome, thought they'd put the 488s into Blancpain and maybe keep the 458s for AM series.

Be awesome to see 488's all round!

Deleted · 9 Feb 2016, 14:51 (Ref:3613380)

'More free practice' for the MGT3CUP at LM
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122729

Oak Racing enters two LMP3s for LM round
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/0...ace-plans.html

Full entries (at least GT3) to be announced after March 15
http://www.europeanlemansseries.com/...es-season/4034

Deleted · 10 Feb 2016, 19:15 (Ref:3613762)

Even though the chances of seeing ADESS on the LM grid now see pretty damn bad with CPB Sport making no show in ELMS at least, there is some hope of seeing something else than complete spec-Onroak LMP3 show at LM still. Not only with Murphy fielding the Riley for ELMS, but ARC Bratislava surprisingly entering the last remaining Ginetta LMP3 in the world for 2016-17 ASLMS (after absolutely disgusting rejection by the ACO for ELMS). So we might see them there right? Neither has put out plain intentions for such yet, but one can hope! I'm also hoping for some AAI ADESS, even if the chassis is as seemingly hopeless as the results say.

Meanwhile ACO apparently expects 15-18 full season GT3s but whatever.

Bcarr6 · 19 Feb 2016, 14:30 (Ref:3616017)

No official announcement, but just noticed on FFF McLaren Team by ACM have both the GT Asia Series, and the Michelin GT3 Le Mans Cup on their 2016 calendar.

Assumedly they are running 1-2 Mclarens in the GT3 Le Mans Cup

Marcel ten Caat · 19 Feb 2016, 14:48 (Ref:3616020)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

No official announcement, but just noticed on FFF McLaren Team by ACM have both the GT Asia Series, and the Michelin GT3 Le Mans Cup on their 2016 calendar.

Assumedly they are running 1-2 Mclarens in the GT3 Le Mans Cup

"From state-of-the-art facilities in Italy, FFF Racing will continue its ascendency in 2016. It will dovetail three campaigns in the newly-launched Michelin GT3 Le Mans Cup, GT Asia Series and Lamborghini Blancpain Super Trofeo Europe, and seats are still available in their recently acquired Lamborghini Huracan GT3s."

Bcarr6 · 19 Feb 2016, 17:36 (Ref:3616073)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel ten Caat

"From state-of-the-art facilities in Italy, FFF Racing will continue its ascendency in 2016. It will dovetail three campaigns in the newly-launched Michelin GT3 Le Mans Cup, GT Asia Series and Lamborghini Blancpain Super Trofeo Europe, and seats are still available in their recently acquired Lamborghini Huracan GT3s."

That from their website? So dropping the Mclarens?

Deleted · 1 Mar 2016, 16:41 (Ref:3619042)

https://www.autoclub.fr/en/news/road...477_23769.html

Deleted · 14 Mar 2016, 13:59 (Ref:3622710)

The registration closes tomorrow so the entry list announcement should be imminent. Let's hope for more than spec P3 grid at LM.

Bcarr6 · 14 Mar 2016, 14:11 (Ref:3622717)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

The registration closes tomorrow so the entry list announcement should be imminent. Let's hope for more than spec P3 grid at LM.

We are realistically likely to see all Ligier except maybe one Adess, and one Riley Ave though right? Not sure what the last remaining Ginettas plans are beyond maybe ASLMS

Deleted · 14 Mar 2016, 14:33 (Ref:3622720)

Well it's not like Bratislava can run that Ginetta anywhere else within the ACO realm before fall now (well except the Sepang Sprint Cup I guess) so they might just as well enter. Plus, it's Le Mans

Obviously it'll be full of Onroaks, and it's inevitable they will win it in front of their home base (assuming GT3 doesn't outperform them), but if there's at least one car presence from the other LMP3 manufacturers (except Dome and their late project) it becomes immediately more interesting.

Maybe AAI enters ADESS or two, especially as they will be at the track regardless for the 24 hours.

Murphy hasn't actually said they will enter the Riley for the race, they've only mentioned ELMS, but I would sure hope so. And if it's really a "factory team" for Riley (or so to speak) I'm sure they too would like presence there.

Marcel ten Caat · 14 Mar 2016, 21:18 (Ref:3622812)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

The registration closes tomorrow so the entry list announcement should be imminent. Let's hope for more than spec P3 grid at LM.

Pre-season test at Paul Ricard this weekend, so yes...that announcement will be made soon ;-)

Bcarr6 · 15 Mar 2016, 17:52 (Ref:3623053)

Seems like it's been ages since a announcement for this series, but finally we have one (start of a flurry I imagine!)

FFF racing team by ACM with a two car lineup:

One Huracan GT3 for Andrea Calderelli and Sean Fu Songyang, and one McLaren 650s GT3 for Hiroshi Hamiguichi and a pro driver TBA (maybe a McLaren factory or academy driver)

Nice to see a team taking a multi-mark approach of a Lambo and McLaren, and the cars look great too.

FFF will be doing the Euro super Trofeo this year as well as the GT3 cup, no mention of a GT Asia return, although it is marked on the calendar in their website

Deleted · 18 Mar 2016, 13:25 (Ref:3623852)

The official test is supposed to happen tomorrow. And we still haven't received entry lists from ACO lol.

Btw bunch of AF Corse Ferraris have been announced (of course) but whatever it's the P3 field I'm waiting for. Even so, might the GT3 portion of this be a flop in numbers...

Bcarr6 · 18 Mar 2016, 15:11 (Ref:3623879)

Pretty small GT3 grid in terms of announcements so far, I only know of the following:

3x AF corse Ferraris
1x Johnny Mowlems Ferrari, forgot the team
1x TF Sport Aston Martin
1x FFF racing Lamborghini
1x FFF racing McLaren

So... 7??? Seems crazy to have so few announcement so close to the test day

rich07 · 20 Mar 2016, 12:06 (Ref:3625115)

I see Solih Yoluc is driving for TF. Hope Aston can keep up with the spare parts...

Bcarr6 · 20 Mar 2016, 12:30 (Ref:3625123)

Haha! Only 9 cars were at the test. This one is looking a little dire

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