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Old 4 Sep 2013, 18:38 (Ref:3299008)   #26
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What was this thread about again.......?
Leather, whip and German soldiers...






Oh sorry, something about FIA and a new president... yeah, similar things.


The point is, Jean Todt doesn't like the spotlight and this is boring.
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Old 4 Sep 2013, 18:43 (Ref:3299011)   #27
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Brabham didn't win the Constructors in '81 or '83, when Piquet won both those WDCs, that went to Williams and Ferrari respectively. McLaren won 10 Constructors Championships under Dennis. You're right he is very clever at getting backing, you just have to look at how he put the whole TAG/Porsche deal together. Any way, I digress, .
To Bernie, titles were less important than money, I reckon. Brabham would surely have won the 1976 title - which went to a 3 year old car - had they not dropped Cosworth for Alfa. And maybe some of the following years' titles as well. Plus had Bernie been bothered about the constructors' title he wouldn't have had Rebaque as anything higher than a number 37.
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Old 5 Sep 2013, 07:25 (Ref:3299248)   #29
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Was a reasonably interesting thread until it was hijacked.

By folk that really ought to know better

Was interested to read in Bernie's book that he was one minute for Mosley after the Nazi thing, then one minute against, it was changing all the time, and I think Max really did come very close to getting the boot.

Not sure whta would have happened then as Hodt was still at Ferrari I think!
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It's really annoying when this piece of news got put in the "F1" section of Autosport, so I would echo what others have said that I hope that whoever comes in does good for motorsport in general.

Todt's legacy will be a great one for me. We have a world championship in the four great disciplines once again; single seaters, touring cars, rallying and sports cars.

Heaven knows that some of those Championships, especially rallying, is in a terrible state. But the fact all four actually exist in this financial climate is something.

I hope whoever comes in ensures there's greater harmony between them all. F1 is trying to be too many things at once. Road car relevance is a red herring; we have touring cars and endurance racing for that. I hope F1 becomes about driving a car hell-for-leather again. F1 has survived for 60 years perfectly well without being relevant.
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Jean Todt has said he is going to seek another term as FIA president.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109740
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It's really annoying when this piece of news got put in the "F1" section of Autosport, so I would echo what others have said that I hope that whoever comes in does good for motorsport in general.

Todt's legacy will be a great one for me. We have a world championship in the four great disciplines once again; single seaters, touring cars, rallying and sports cars.

Heaven knows that some of those Championships, especially rallying, is in a terrible state. But the fact all four actually exist in this financial climate is something.

I hope whoever comes in ensures there's greater harmony between them all. F1 is trying to be too many things at once. Road car relevance is a red herring; we have touring cars and endurance racing for that. I hope F1 becomes about
driving a car hell-for-leather again. F1 has survived for 60 years perfectly well without being relevant.
It's viewed by the mainstream as the F1 President, as all they cover is Bernie's circus. When the last election took place, 5 Live had a discussion, and the presenter had no idea who Ari Vatanen was.

I'd give Todt another 4 years - he's been much less 'hands on' which I actually think is what should happen; rather than the constant meddling of Max. He also brought about the return of a Sportscar world championship; the WEC, so is still in credit for that. However, his attempts to fix the WRC don't seem to be working.
At least JT realises F1 isn't the be all & end all of Motorsport - which I think annoys Bernie.....
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An interesting article from Joe Saward on David Ward's proposals for the FIA. It would involve a restructuring of the organisation and that there would be international standards applied to financial accounting along with standards regarding bribery and corruption.

Seems to me the new president should be a combination of Todt and Ward.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/...-wards-agenda/
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Good, good ! Candidates always have good ideas in paper.
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An interesting article from Joe Saward on David Ward's proposals for the FIA. It would involve a restructuring of the organisation and that there would be international standards applied to financial accounting along with standards regarding bribery and corruption.

Seems to me the new president should be a combination of Todt and Ward.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/...-wards-agenda/
I'm surprised the FIA don't already publish their annual accounts that conform to International Accounting Standards.
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Now think about FIFA and IOC...
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Todt attacked over ethics.

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