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Bcarr6 · 12 Feb 2021, 23:32 (Ref:4034902)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

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2021 Pure ETCR schedule:

June 18-20: Vallelunga (TCR Italy)
July 2-4: Zolder (24 Hours)
July 9-11: Aragón (WTCR)
August 6-8: Copenhagen
October 15-17: Inje (WTCR)

Odd calendar.

Still remains to be seen if this format isn’t going to totally suck.

I would have preferred regular TC racing, embracing the new tech, but without the gimmicks to try and hide the slower pace

Speed-King · 13 Feb 2021, 06:33 (Ref:4034919)

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Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Odd calendar.

Still remains to be seen if this format isn’t going to totally suck.

I would have preferred regular TC racing, embracing the new tech, but without the gimmicks to try and hide the slower pace

I think it's more about making up for the smaller expected field.

**FIRE** · 13 Feb 2021, 18:10 (Ref:4034980)

WTCR and ETCR are huge rivals.

Cinghio44 · 15 Feb 2021, 16:33 (Ref:4035265)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

I think it's more about making up for the smaller expected field.

Excatly, this is the point!

Obviously they need to attract more manufacturers but at the same time they need a sort of demo racing to show what these cars can do.

I think that the 2020 crise didn't help the grow of the championship. Anyway, there is one more constructor that want to be involved so let's see.

I would like to see a proper electric touring car championship in future

**FIRE** · 15 Feb 2021, 18:47 (Ref:4035301)

I see it too as a demo series.

Juntos · 19 Feb 2021, 18:35 (Ref:4035920)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

I see it too as a demo series.

Yes, cause you can't do proper racing with six entries.

Cinghio44 · 23 Feb 2021, 11:16 (Ref:4036403)

Team Cupra confirmed the three drivers: Ekstrom, Azcona and the evergreen Jordi Gene

Gene is the tester for Seat/Cupra but he will struggle a lot imho with this format, given also the fact he has limited experience with rwd cars... it was better to choose someone quicker or at least more talented

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Vernay was announced with Romeo Ferraris but then he's been confirmed by Hyundai and he will develop the Veloster ETCR. Very strange....

thetool · 23 Feb 2021, 11:29 (Ref:4036407)

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Originally Posted by Cinghio44

given also the fact he has limited experience with rwd cars...

I take it you are overlooking the fact he is both a former F3000 race winner and Le Mans class winner, both driving RWD cars?

Cinghio44 · 23 Feb 2021, 11:45 (Ref:4036410)

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Originally Posted by thetool

I take it you are overlooking the fact he is both a former F3000 race winner and Le Mans class winner, both driving RWD cars?

He has a really big experience but those successes came 20 years ago or more...

Surely he is a perfect testing drivers but racing is very different. If you compare him to people like Ekstrom, Farfus, Vernay... in my opinion he will struggle but Cupra maybe choosed him for feedbacks and not result. I don't know......

helgi · 24 Feb 2021, 09:24 (Ref:4036571)

I thought that FE has clearly shown that EV have nothing in common with racing. Maybe they are good for 2-3 minutes of rallycross or 10 seconds of burning tires for advertising, but for racing - no way. Super amazing marvelous Jaguar Trophy as a clue.

antnee · 24 Feb 2021, 10:04 (Ref:4036587)

The powertrain doesn't make it good or bad racing. Track size/type, vehicle type, driver skill, etc make good racing.

Stick the ETCR powertrain into NGTC cars, on UK tracks with the current BTCC drivers and the racing would be as good as using 2.0 petrol engines.

krzysiek_aleks · 24 Feb 2021, 12:09 (Ref:4036619)

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Originally Posted by helgi

Super amazing marvelous Jaguar Trophy as a clue.

I think if you would put any racing SUVs with stock engines on tiny, narrow street circuits you would get the same level of action...

Cinghio44 · 19 Mar 2021, 12:13 (Ref:4041482)

So Stefano Coletti will drive one of the Romeo Ferraris Alfa Giulia for the team...

Decent driver in GP2, then he tried in in Indycar but struggled a lot and since then never seen anything of him. I hope he will adapt quickly to these difficult electric touring car.

As for Vernay I don't understand if he is in in the Romeo Ferraris project after the Hyundai announcement. I believe not at this point...

**FIRE** · 19 Mar 2021, 12:28 (Ref:4041487)

AnnoyedMoose · 19 Mar 2021, 15:12 (Ref:4041519)

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Originally Posted by helgi

I thought that FE has clearly shown that EV have nothing in common with racing.

What FE races have you watched? I've followed motorsport since the early 70's and many of the FE races have been as good as any for action and wheel to wheel racing.

**FIRE** · 24 Mar 2021, 12:15 (Ref:4042664)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNjqF_X...name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNjsOMW...name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNjvF9W...name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNjxCsW...name=4096x4096

The Alfa Romeo is a cool looking car.

antnee · 24 Mar 2021, 13:30 (Ref:4042680)

It does look great! Any ideas what is stuck to the front of it? I guess its some form of data logging equipment but not seen anything like that before.

redshoes · 24 Mar 2021, 17:58 (Ref:4042755)

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Originally Posted by antnee

Any ideas what is stuck to the front of it? I guess its some form of data logging equipment but not seen anything like that before.

Looks like a speed sensor. Shins a light downwards and measure the change in position of the returned beam. If you look closely at the pictures you can see the reflection of the light on the ground.

S griffin · 24 Mar 2021, 23:08 (Ref:4042830)

So that’s how they work. Never would have guessed that. Thanks for the info

**FIRE** · 27 Apr 2021, 17:02 (Ref:4048126)

Augusto Farfus, Jean-Karl Vernay, Tom Chilton and John Filippi race for Hyundai in ETCR.

Cinghio44 · 28 Apr 2021, 10:39 (Ref:4048234)

No news and no cars from the MG side. I wonder if the raising number of Hyundai is caused by the lack of the MG cars for the ETCR 2021

S griffin · 28 Apr 2021, 10:47 (Ref:4048238)

Wonder why we’re not hearing much from MG?

**FIRE** · 28 Apr 2021, 17:42 (Ref:4048331)

The MG project was never official announced. Correct me if I am wrong.

crmalcolm · 28 Apr 2021, 17:46 (Ref:4048332)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

The MG project was never official announced. Correct me if I am wrong.

I think as official as it got was Xavier Gavory quoted as saying: "Officially registered we have Cupra, who were the first manufacturer to come onboard with Mattias Eskstrom and Jordi Gene at the wheel of their impressive eRacer. They have made a lot of communication around this and the car is very beautiful and very aggressive. Then we have Alfa Romeo and MG, who have built ETCR spec cars. Both have announced the production of the cars, and we expect to have their registration very soon. Obviously Hyundai has the Veloster that is eligible and it is another extremely nice and aggressive car in terms of its looks, and they have done a lot of testing already with the car. They will hopefully register officially very soon."

**FIRE** · 28 Apr 2021, 17:49 (Ref:4048333)

That's indeed a quote from someone who should know.

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