2009 British Superbike - Page 2

**ghinzani** · 5 May 2009, 06:48 (Ref:2455606)

Yep Camiers got the measure of Ellison, Guintolis Suzuki didnt seem suited to Oulton but he hung on to it. Harris managed to stay on for two races which was good.

Ive said it before but BSB doesnt seem that strong this year - a cup runner running in the the top ten both races? Also you do wonder about Stalker - is he past it or is it the bike? Similarly Wattanabe, surely he would be better off back in Japan - hes finishing behind the top three cup runners generally and hasnt made the transition at all.

Finally what happened to Rutter and his team? No sign of them at Oulton.

**ghinzani** · 5 May 2009, 06:55 (Ref:2455611)

Edit that Rutter was there, just not a factor, and his team mate broke his collarbone in practice.

racer69 · 5 May 2009, 15:58 (Ref:2455920)

Maybe both Stalker & Rutter are both past it, if neither of the Rob Mac Yamaha's were in contention....

Last year, when he stayed on it, Harris was able to get results out of a McElnea-run Yamaha..... the bikes are different this year but Camier seems to have sorted it out...

Rutter was helped by the Ducati last year, but it was easy to forgot his two poor years at MSS and Stobart before it....

DavidStHubbins · 5 May 2009, 23:12 (Ref:2456154)

Great battle between Guintoli and Ellison in race 2. frightening track... i think the pace up front is as hot as ever - but outside the top 5 it is a bit poor. great tracks though!

chunder · 6 May 2009, 18:03 (Ref:2456667)

I think to be h'onest the Rob Mac Yamahs are nowhere near the spec of the GSE bikes

That might explain their poor results, they were road bikes after all

Harris at elast managed to stay on a bit this weekend, lI do hope he can manage to stop crashing!

cg7aa · 12 May 2009, 08:57 (Ref:2460708)

I recorded ITV4's highlights of the Oulton Park round last week and I finally had the chance to watch it yesterday. I really need to drag my backside to this track. Its such a wonderful track in my opinion. The attitude of the bikes over the crests and dips was pretty spectacular. Perhaps this is just me but the sound of the bikes on the coverage was very good. It came across quite well.

Harris stayed on the bike in both races. Phew! I thought Simon Andrews was very impressive too. Where was Rutter all weekend?

**gomick** · 26 May 2009, 01:48 (Ref:2469187)

Noticed in the 125's there was a young MacKenzie riding around - would that be Niall's son

Yamaha's continue to be the winning bike in BSB with Camier & Ellison getting a win each at Donington. Suzuki's Guintoli had a stinker scoring no points all round... Stuart Easton put in 2 good rides!

Superbike Points after 6 rounds...

1. Leon Camier - 117
2. James Ellison - 89
3. Stuart Easton - 78
4. Sylvain Guintoli - 77
5. Glen Richards - 76
6. Karl Harris - 60
7. Chris Walker - 49

11. Jason O'Halloran - 31
18. Josh Brookes - 6

Brookes better pull his finger out or his international racing career is over

Steve Plater got the 600cc win for Honda from Dan Linfoot & Billy McConnell...

Supersport Points after 3 rounds...

1. Steve Plater - 50
2. Billy McConnell - 47
3. Dan Linfoot - 36
4. Daniel Cooper - 35
5. Ben Wilson - 29

chunder · 26 May 2009, 09:57 (Ref:2469345)

Brookes took out Guinters and broke his leg!! Nice one, though his brakes failed apparently

Mackenzie has two sons both in 125 I think, one at club level and Taylor who sems quick but not mercurial

**gomick** · 26 May 2009, 10:53 (Ref:2469377)

Just read about the Brookes/Guintoli incident - not everyday a riders brakes fail on a sighting lap...

jhansen · 26 May 2009, 14:05 (Ref:2469507)

Brookes has been suspended, as it's been found out the brakes didn't fail. Bummer for Guintoli, I was enjoying his British Superbike progress. Nice to see Ellison grab a win.

chunder · 26 May 2009, 15:32 (Ref:2469566)

Really! Where did you read that??

If so then he deserves his punishment, Guinters is a top bloke and a really underrated rider, and HM Plant seem to have really lost their way, Seems the Aussie tide may ahve come to and end in BSB at least!!

jhansen · 26 May 2009, 16:42 (Ref:2469610)

Read it here. But maybe there is a better source.

http://www.crash.net/British+Superbi...r_brookes.html

BootsOntheSide · 27 May 2009, 21:36 (Ref:2470557)

Brookes went right down in my estimation for this. Making a mistake on a sighting lap is bad enough, but to fail to admit to it and try to blame the brakes (thus accusing his own team of a mistake) is inexcusable. The ban is suspended, meaning that he will not be banned unless he does something else bad in the next three meetings. Frankly HM Plant should consider imposing their own penalty, because Brookes has really wrecked the championship (as well as his own reputation) through a moment of madness. The only consolations are that Camier arguably deserves some luck after Cadwell 2007, and you could call it karma after Guintoli took out Hofmann so similarly at Laguna in 2007.

**gomick** · 28 May 2009, 09:02 (Ref:2470756)

Thats pretty poor on Josh's behalf if he has lied about what happened. Terrible luck for Guintoli, Suzuki & this years championship...

cg7aa · 28 May 2009, 21:31 (Ref:2471219)

My apologies for sounding like a stuck record but I've gotta say this again, Simon Andrews can make the Kawasaki go very fast indeed. Well done that man!

**gomick** · 30 May 2009, 23:02 (Ref:2472354)

BSB boys head to the fast Thruxton circuit this weekend...

Leon Camier & James Ellison again where quickest in qualifying on there Airwaves R1's - privateer Gary Mason is 3rd

... Simon Andrews put the Kwaka in p10, just behind Josh Brookes...

James Westmoreland on the Triumph got the Supersport pole...

**gomick** · 1 Jun 2009, 01:54 (Ref:2473059)

Yamaha boys finish 1-2 in both races... Josh Brookes got a podium in race 2

Points after 8 rounds...

1. Leon Camier - 167
2. James Ellison - 129
3. Stuart Easton - 107
4. Glen Richards - 95
5. Sylvain Guintoli - 77
6. Karl Harris - 72
7. Simon Andrews - 58

Bill McConnell won his 2nd Supersport race of the season

Points after 4 rounds...

1. Billy McConnell - 72
2. Steve Plater - 70
3. Dan Linfoot - 52
4. Ben Wilson - 39
5. Daniel Cooper - 37
6. James Westmoreland - 36

jhansen · 1 Jun 2009, 16:22 (Ref:2473487)

Looks like the Yamaha boys will have it all their own way now.

DavidStHubbins · 2 Jun 2009, 20:01 (Ref:2474265)

Camier to replace Sykes next year?

cg7aa · 5 Jun 2009, 12:31 (Ref:2475940)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidStHubbins

Camier to replace Sykes next year?

Hmmm, you've got to feel for Sykes a bit. In any other year, paired with another rookie rider, his results would have looked reasonable but when you are up against a talent like Spies. You are made to look somewhat ordinary. A case of Schumacher and Irvine perhaps? The former (however flawed) was a on different level altogether from everyone else, the latter was competent but made to look very average in comparison.

Anyway, what's up with Glen Richards and HM Plant, I thought they would be at the pointy end all season? Mind you, Ten Kate's Honda's only really started showing race long pace at the last WSBK round. An indication of where the 2009 bike is perhaps?

DavidStHubbins · 7 Jun 2009, 08:28 (Ref:2476794)

Honda seems up and down all over the place at the moment. Even Ten Kate are struggling.

What about Andrews on the Kwaka though?! Some crazy lines around the back of Thruxton - especially in the last lap. He came out of the side of the camera while the people behind him were in camera for the whole corner... Extra wide yet ripsnortingly fast. respect.

**gomick** · 22 Jun 2009, 07:39 (Ref:2488065)

Another 2 race wins for Leon Camier - thats 8 out of 10... Josh Brookes got 2 podiums aswell

Superbike Points after 10 rounds...

1. Leon Camier - 217
2. James Ellison - 162
3. Stuart Easton - 140
4. Glen Richards - 103
5. Karl Harris - 87
6. Sylvain Guintoli - 77
7. Simon Andrews - 69
8. Ian Lowry - 68
9. Josh Brookes - 63
10. Chris Walker - 59

Steve Plater got the Supersport win...

Supersport Points after 5 rounds...

1. Steve Plater - 95
2. Billy McConnell - 72
3. Daniel Cooper - 57
4. Dan Linfoot - 52
5. James Westmoreland - 52

jhansen · 22 Jun 2009, 15:19 (Ref:2488385)

Camier is looking very strong indeed. Is he a fairly young bloke? Brookes finally showing some pace too.

chunder · 23 Jun 2009, 22:06 (Ref:2489403)

A little boring to be honest

THough ITV have the right idea by never showing the Airwvaes riders!! Utterly dull for them too I imagine

DavidStHubbins · 23 Jun 2009, 22:16 (Ref:2489408)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhansen

Camier is looking very strong indeed. Is he a fairly young bloke? Brookes finally showing some pace too.

Camier is 22. Had HUGE vomitous accident in 2008, dislocating/compounding fracturing his knee or something at a gnarly circuit, ruining his season. It is on youtube, Cadwell Park was the circuit. Gross footage. See his long leg bend/snap in ways that are not natural. Seems to be fit again which is a surprise and a relief.

He is fast and has no playmates with the demise of Guintoli.

At 6ft2 we won't be seeing him in motogp but I think he deserves a berth in WSBK with the rest of the guys who left him to play with himself.

Brookes is looking good, but then again he did smash Guintoli out of the championship so anyone will look good now with him gone.

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