Dakar Rally - Page 2

Liz · 3 Jan 2005, 01:18 (Ref:1191981)

My favourite motorbike driver will not be there this year ... Richard Sanct, killed in the Rally of the Pharoahs ... he will be missed.

The Dakar is being broadcast on the OLN two weeks late, so as not to interfere with the NA$CAR coverage on Speed Channel, even though there isn't any. GRRRRR.

Crowestar · 3 Jan 2005, 12:08 (Ref:1192132)

I was watching the highlights package last night and found out some bloke had to withdraw because he had all of his gear stolen out of his car in parc ferme before the rally started proper. poor fella.

gwyllion · 3 Jan 2005, 12:52 (Ref:1192154)

Robby Gordon wins again to day and becomes overall leader again! Impressive

The Nissan Pickup disappoints a bit today.

rdjones · 3 Jan 2005, 15:54 (Ref:1192243)

Today's motorcycle stage was cancelled when fog grounded security helicopters.

dirtfan · 3 Jan 2005, 20:27 (Ref:1192425)

"And Africa just may surprise him. Baja sprinty things (with a cosy service halt every 50km) are one thing, so is a quick squirt around the local beach in Barcelona - two weeks in the desert are something else entirely."

You were saying?...

cybersdorf · 3 Jan 2005, 20:34 (Ref:1192429)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtfan

"And Africa just may surprise him. Baja sprinty things (with a cosy service halt every 50km) are one thing, so is a quick squirt around the local beach in Barcelona - two weeks in the desert are something else entirely."

You were saying?...

I was saying, stage 3 of how many? He'll break into a sweat before he gets to Dakar, unfortunately

**Asp** · 3 Jan 2005, 20:46 (Ref:1192438)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtfan

"And Africa just may surprise him. Baja sprinty things (with a cosy service halt every 50km) are one thing, so is a quick squirt around the local beach in Barcelona - two weeks in the desert are something else entirely."

You were saying?...

It was still only a short stage by Dakar standards. I'm not dismissing him, far from it, I think he'll do well - but I don't think we are ready to count our chickens yet...

dirtfan · 3 Jan 2005, 21:18 (Ref:1192459)

One stage, 1000 miles (1600km) of balls-to-the-wall racing, 16 hours straight, the "cozy service stops" are just pit stops. The time starts when they leave Ensanada, and stops when they reach La Paz. No cozy "off the clock" sleep stops. And the course is just endless whoops. I've run across it while cow-trailing on my dirt bike, and it's a killer!

cybersdorf · 3 Jan 2005, 22:20 (Ref:1192493)

In all seriousness, he is doing very well for himself.

...and in all seriousness, I can't wait till they get to the desert.

No NASCAR-in-the-dirt - just survival, plain and simple. Rallying as it should be.

Speedworx · 3 Jan 2005, 22:59 (Ref:1192528)

Hopefully Robby's car will hold until Dakar and he can get a decent finish.

muggle not · 3 Jan 2005, 23:46 (Ref:1192570)

Fact is, Robby is in the lead no matter what stage they are currently in. Good job Robby. It is better to be in first than last even after only the first 2 stages. No one is saying that he will win.....well maybe I am....but he is doing OK so far.

dirtfan · 3 Jan 2005, 23:56 (Ref:1192573)

Check out http://www.robbygordonoffroad.com and you'll find he knows a thing or two about desert racing. He's been doing it for more than 15 years, and his company builds off-road race machines.

**FIRE** · 4 Jan 2005, 17:09 (Ref:1193011)

Mitsubishi loosing the rally?
Stage 5
Overall

**FIRE** · 4 Jan 2005, 17:35 (Ref:1193041)

Has someone more info about this Renautl Megane?

http://www.capdesert.net/Infos/2004/...kar%202005.htm
http://www.motorsport.com/photos/sel...ns&Y=2005&O=84

Is it a 2wd "buggy"?

luke · 4 Jan 2005, 17:54 (Ref:1193060)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtfan

you'll find he knows a thing or two about desert racing. He's been doing it for more than 15 years, and his company builds off-road race machines.

I wondered why he was quick of the mark.

cybersdorf · 4 Jan 2005, 17:58 (Ref:1193062)

I believe it's a 4WD.

**FIRE** · 4 Jan 2005, 18:06 (Ref:1193071)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersdorf

I believe it's a 4WD.

Based on a Nissan Patrol or X-Trail?

I thought the Citroen ZX Rallye Raid was the last "prototype" and such cars were no longer allowed to take part after the mid 90s.

cybersdorf · 4 Jan 2005, 18:19 (Ref:1193086)

I don't know. I know Pro Pulsion from autocross, the build "buggy" chassis. It is classified as a "Super Production" - anyone got the Dakar rulebook?

dirtfan · 4 Jan 2005, 19:46 (Ref:1193145)

THIS is what Robby should be driving... if they won't move over, BLAST 'EM!!

http://www.specialoperations.com/Ima...ary6/buggy.jpg

E46 · 4 Jan 2005, 20:05 (Ref:1193152)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Mitsubishi loosing the rally?
Stage 5
Overall

Mitsubishi had some punctures today, but nothing is lost. Desert is waiting in Mauritania.

cybersdorf · 4 Jan 2005, 21:15 (Ref:1193222)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtfan

THIS is what Robby should be driving... if they won't move over, BLAST 'EM!!

http://www.specialoperations.com/Ima...ary6/buggy.jpg

I am confident he doesn't need this sort of equaliser to win.

gwyllion · 4 Jan 2005, 23:07 (Ref:1193289)

Quote:

Originally Posted by E46

Mitsubishi had some punctures today, but nothing is lost. Desert is waiting in Mauritania.

Everybody had punctures

Masuoka lost all possibility for the victory because of a damaged transmission.

Crowestar · 5 Jan 2005, 05:04 (Ref:1193378)

Colin Mcrae fastest today in the cars and leads the rally outright.
Andy Caldicott fastest today on the bikes. Its good to see an Aussie doing well. Watch out for Andy!!!

**Asp** · 5 Jan 2005, 12:14 (Ref:1193555)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

Everybody had punctures

Mitsu certainly struggled more than the others though. This could be in the case of Peterhansel bue due to illness, or there is a theory that the team chose tyres more suited to the soft sand than the rocks they faced yesterday (this year only one spec of tyre can be chosen for the entire rally). We will see later today!

Quote:

Originally Posted by muggle not

Fact is, Robby is in the lead no matter what stage they are currently in. Good job Robby. It is better to be in first than last even after only the first 2 stages. No one is saying that he will win.....well maybe I am....but he is doing OK so far.

He certainly is doing ok so far, but I've got a feeling he is the sort of driver who goes flat out to soon. Yesterday for instance he was in the lead at CP1, and then dropped, heavily. Granted, he got a great deal of punctures, and some of that was luck - but seeing how he's been winning the short stages and then the start of yesterday makes me think that he'll go flat out, and then either tire himself or the car out before the end of the day, or of course before the end of the rally. I hope I'm wrong and yesterday was just a case of pure bad luck and I'd like to see what happens today, but that's what strikes me at the moment.

And just a comment on Eurosport's coverage - I quite like the idea of these "Racing Reporters", but watching last night and where they were, does anyone actually think they'll make it to Dakar?

cybersdorf · 5 Jan 2005, 17:54 (Ref:1193783)

Well, that's Colin taken care of.

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