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Old 8 Aug 2008, 14:50 (Ref:2265917)   #26
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Sherrin Motorsport's creditors list totals $4.5m, Carrera Cup $1.2m and the MINI list $1.4m. How on earth did Sherrin achieve this?
God knows especially with the prices they want and charge for everything.
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Old 8 Aug 2008, 15:06 (Ref:2265925)   #27
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How does this affect Sherrin Hire???

And do they still have all those BMW's they bought a few years back??? But how they achieved $1.4 with the Minis is beyond me but the rest I could probably understand...
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Old 8 Aug 2008, 22:08 (Ref:2266118)   #28
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Sounds like cash has been sucked out of the categories. The former head of Sherrin Motorsport is now out there canvassing former customers to race with them again.
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Old 8 Aug 2008, 23:05 (Ref:2266159)   #29
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How does this affect Sherrin Hire???

And do they still have all those BMW's they bought a few years back??? But how they achieved $1.4 with the Minis is beyond me but the rest I could probably understand...
My understanding is the cash came from the sale of the Sherrin businesses to Boom Logistics ( the Russell Carrera Cup car sponsored as a result of that transaction?).
The Sherrin Motorsport business - is it a money spinner?
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Old 8 Aug 2008, 23:10 (Ref:2266164)   #30
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How does this affect Sherrin Hire???
Sherrin Hire was bought out by Boom Logistics Limited (an ASX listed company) Here so should be isolated from this mess.

It does besmirch the Sherrin name of course

The numbers being suggested above are enormous... and more likely reflect that the category suppliers allowed conventional financial terms to slide, in the interest of maintaining the category... the last thing a Porsche or a BMW-Mini would want to be seen to be doing would be to fold the category manager for payment, it wouldnt show them in a good light... or do much for the resale value of the existing equipment.

The Sherrin operation had some grandiose plans, built a new workshop, took on those 120i BMW's, Carrera Cup, Minis, trying to build something like a Racer Industries/Revolution Racegear from scratch... and (from the outside at least) very much over investing compared to the anticipated returns.

I presume this now means the Sherrin Motorsport CC's wont be appearing at the next 2 rounds?
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Old 9 Aug 2008, 00:20 (Ref:2266180)   #31
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They plan on racing at the final 3 rounds. The mechanics are being offered jobs in the "new racing entity". I am sure the suppliers who have been dudded by the brother will be keen to catch up with the "new business"
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Old 9 Aug 2008, 00:25 (Ref:2266181)   #32
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Old 9 Aug 2008, 12:54 (Ref:2266319)   #33
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if they turn up under a new entity whilst still owing money to suppliers cams should step in and prevent them from racing!!!
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Old 9 Aug 2008, 14:06 (Ref:2266345)   #34
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if they turn up under a new entity whilst still owing money to suppliers cams should step in and prevent them from racing!!!
Didnt happen the last time a category manager folded... oops.. allegedly..
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Oh sweet, a "phoenix"
Just like a Qld based V8 Supercar team.
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Sherrin Motorsport's creditors list totals $4.5m, Carrera Cup $1.2m and the MINI list $1.4m. How on earth did Sherrin achieve this?
where did this info come from?
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 03:56 (Ref:2267086)   #37
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there is no way porsche will allow sherrins to compete in a new entity as they wont have a teams agreement!
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 06:11 (Ref:2267102)   #38
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The info came from the net liability statements sent to creditors for the 3 companies. Porsche and CAMS have managed to change the Sherrin appointed liquidator to one they want on the case. Those that were at the creditors meeting suggested it was fairly brutal and the Sherrin's dug themselves into deeper holes. Insolvent trading was a common theme (allegedly).
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 10:10 (Ref:2267183)   #39
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The info came from the net liability statements sent to creditors for the 3 companies. Porsche and CAMS have managed to change the Sherrin appointed liquidator to one they want on the case. Those that were at the creditors meeting suggested it was fairly brutal and the Sherrin's dug themselves into deeper holes. Insolvent trading was a common theme (allegedly).
Cheers. How brutal? Is the 4.5 including Cup & Mini or outside of the other figures?
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 11:15 (Ref:2267201)   #40
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Cheers. How brutal? Is the 4.5 including Cup & Mini or outside of the other figures?
The guy who attended said the lawyer representing Porsche and then CAMS gave Sherrin plenty. As the MD he was hung out to dry. Evidently there was support from Porsche to see the year out and the lawyer was trying to find out why he shut down Carrera Cup when he did not have to.

The other juicy bit was that Sherrn Motorsport lost $1.8m to Dec 07 and a further $800,000 in the six months to June. They pretty much suggested its demise dragged down the 2 categories.

Not completely sure if $4.5m was inclusive. The staff who attended could not confirm what the Bank was owed.
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Um, given that there was almost zero commercial sponsorship (i.e. non-Sherrin Group) aboard the Carrera Cup cars, nor a series sponsor of any scale, is there any surprise that the category manager fell over?

Perhaps Mr Ridge's Q-Media shall be more successful
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Interesting to see that Sherrin through its Sherrin Rentals and Boom Logistics brands are still sponsoring Nathan Geier in the Mini challenge and David Russell in Fitzy's Carrera Cup.... :rolleyes;
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VEHICLES & TRAILERS: 4x transporter pantech trailers (2x 4 car, 1x dropdeck, 1x A-trailer); 06 Mitsubishi fighter pan; 04 Isuzu twin cab tray truck; 07 mini (Mini Challenge race car), 2x 04 BMW 120i; 06 BMW 130i; 05 Toyota SRS twin cab

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What is curious is where are the rest of the BMW's, and the Carrera Cup cars... plus the 996 cars they still operated...
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I expect all the BMWs have been sold. The brother was looking to buy the 3 997s (probably for the phoenix operation with former Sherrin Commercial Manager running them). I heard the 996s were purchased by a GT3 Cup Challenge competitor.
Looks like there is a really good Mini Challenge race car there. Cheap way to get in the national series.
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Presumably the 130i is the B12 class winner from last year?
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Interesting to see that Sherrin through its Sherrin Rentals and Boom Logistics brands are still sponsoring Nathan Geier in the Mini challenge and David Russell in Fitzy's Carrera Cup.... :rolleyes;
Wasn't the Sherrin Hire business sold to Boom Logistics?
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Got the ownership bit wrong GTR ! Boom are listed, bought the Sherrin crane hire/rental business - the Sherrin boys are p...ing the proceeds !!
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Interesting to see that the Sherrin brand wont be lost to motorsport, funding a 2 car Howard Racing BF family next season for Mr Russell & Mr Sherrin, according to MeN....

I wonder how the creditors of the above feel about that
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Just the name itself is bound to stir the blood of many...but he's the 'other' brother, not the one who caused all the financial carnage and remains hiding out with Bin Laden.

Although, give this Sherrin his dues, got more front than Myers to turn up in the paddock when there is so much aggro about surrounding the name
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