F1 2008 round 4 - Spanish GP, Catalunya (25/04/08-27/04/08). - Page 2

Sodemo · 25 Apr 2008, 16:17 (Ref:2186754)

Ferrari have a good half a second over the rest of the field.

So it will be a Ferrari 1-2 in quali and a Ferrari 1-2 in the race, without doubt.

The battle for the last podium place might be somewhat more interesting though...

Knowlesy · 25 Apr 2008, 16:19 (Ref:2186756)

Massa holds the key to the Ferrari 1-2 really. Will he keep it on the island all day?

He seemed to have a tough old time today.

paddy · 25 Apr 2008, 17:06 (Ref:2186806)

So many drivers seemed to lose half a second in the last sector. Poor handling or sandbagging? It looks like it's Kimi's to lose.
Hamilton great to watch on board I thought. I love the new regs as the cars are just so much better to watch. They even make Barcelona look a bit interesting.
It will be a boring race because it always is there!

Knowlesy · 25 Apr 2008, 17:14 (Ref:2186815)

Barcelona isn't too bad a track, in fact it looks fun to drive (apart from that ruinous last chicane they put in last year). And the atmosphere looks good since Alonso rose to fame.

It falls down purely as a racing venue.

garcon · 25 Apr 2008, 17:42 (Ref:2186837)

I'm sure the drivers are bored already, seeing as they do half their testing there.

You can be sure most of the people watching it will post to tell us how boring it is/was.

Tell you what.

Let's just give the Fezzas 18 points now and bugger off to the beach.

Marbot · 25 Apr 2008, 18:17 (Ref:2186856)

Fernando's given up already! Will the grandstands still be full on Sunday or will everyone have gone to the beach?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66864

Sodemo · 25 Apr 2008, 18:19 (Ref:2186861)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Barcelona isn't too bad a track, in fact it looks fun to drive (apart from that ruinous last chicane they put in last year). And the atmosphere looks good since Alonso rose to fame.

It falls down purely as a racing venue.

The chicane is awful. Its too slow to operate as any kind of overtaking generator, it needed to be the kind of speed of one of the Magny Cours chicanes, (perhaps a tad slower) in order to generate any passing into T1.

Marbot · 25 Apr 2008, 18:29 (Ref:2186868)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

The chicane is awful. Its too slow to operate as any kind of overtaking generator, it needed to be the kind of speed of one of the Magny Cours chicanes, (perhaps a tad slower) in order to generate any passing into T1.

Maybe it's a little more tricky without TC ? *Heads off to ITV website for a quick look*

maximus · 25 Apr 2008, 19:34 (Ref:2186913)

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Originally Posted by Last2LiftOff

The rabbit ears on the Hondas are a little embarrassing, even as a fan. They're in big trouble with that car.

?? Its far better than last years! The times haven't been that bad.

RaiseYourFist · 25 Apr 2008, 21:04 (Ref:2186970)

If Ferrari manage a 1-2 here I doubt it will be any different in Turkey which is a similar high speed / hard on the front tires track

J-C · 25 Apr 2008, 22:24 (Ref:2187001)

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Originally Posted by Last2LiftOff

The rabbit ears on the Hondas are a little embarrassing, even as a fan. They're in big trouble with that car.

The rabbit ears don't really show Honda are in big trouble; they're unlikely to be worth a substantial amount performance-wise anyway. Since the technical rules have been stable now for 3-4 years, teams are looking for every possible gain they can find, particularly since the midfield is so tight every single tenth counts. Something like the rabbit ears on the Honda is probably worth about half a tenth per lap at best.

As for the circuit; up until 2003 the layout was excellent from a drivers point of view but they then tightened the T10 left-hander into a horribly fiddly 1st gear hairpin from a 2nd/3rd gear sweep and then got rid of the fantastic downhill sweepers at the end of the lap in place of the sort of chicane that is about as inappropriate as the tyrewall chicane they had in 1994! The whole point of the changes was to try to improve the racing....which failed miserably, so all it has done is emasculate the last third of the lap. That said it is possible the SECU might might might make a difference as the T10 hairpin and the new chicane are the sort of zone where the lack of TC will be most apparent...

broadrun96 · 26 Apr 2008, 01:21 (Ref:2187050)

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Yeah, the word frustration was used in the commentary as you know, probably. Did Speed say they're covering the GP2 race on Sunday MP? Just caught the tailend of that bit.

Yeah, looks like the GP2 race will be on just before the start of the F1 show, starting at 6am EDT

ozrevhead · 26 Apr 2008, 09:28 (Ref:2187246)

I dont have the footage but Mark's done two laps in 30min - should I be worried

Chiefy · 26 Apr 2008, 10:10 (Ref:2187264)

Practice highlights were interesting. Podiums for both Renaults and spins aplenty up and down the field. What do we think?

It looks like Massa might be planning to make his own weekend difficult again, after he dropped it yesterday!

Podium or not, I look forward to the prospect of Renault joining the big guns again.

**Peter Mallett** · 26 Apr 2008, 10:18 (Ref:2187270)

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Originally Posted by ozrevhead

I dont have the footage but Mark's done two laps in 30min - should I be worried

Er. Hmmm, how to answer? Um, well yes and no. He seems to be up to speed.

ozrevhead · 26 Apr 2008, 10:23 (Ref:2187274)

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Er. Hmmm, how to answer? Um, well yes and no. He seems to be up to speed.

Just read eurosport - said he had a throttle problem and thats why he wasnt taking part in practice

**Peter Mallett** · 26 Apr 2008, 10:34 (Ref:2187285)

Ah yes. It's called mashing it to the floorboards.

Last2LiftOff · 26 Apr 2008, 10:38 (Ref:2187286)

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Originally Posted by J-C

Something like the rabbit ears on the Honda is probably worth about half a tenth per lap at best.

No doubt about it JC. Interesting how we see that so different.

Webber looked pretty strong on Friday, not sure where he ended-up this morning.

alonso11 · 26 Apr 2008, 10:47 (Ref:2187293)

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Webber looked pretty strong on Friday, not sure where he ended-up this morning.

no laptime for him at all, suffered from some problem with the throttle, also session ended with no Ferraris in the top8 and no McLarens in the top10

Marbot · 26 Apr 2008, 10:49 (Ref:2187294)

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Webber looked pretty strong on Friday, not sure where he ended-up this morning.

In the garage,looking glum.......so not much change there then.

ozrevhead · 26 Apr 2008, 11:10 (Ref:2187310)

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In the garage,looking glum.......so not much change there then.

well if he had everything handed to him like Blewis Mamlton things would be different

al_sami · 26 Apr 2008, 11:15 (Ref:2187315)

Bad times for Mucklaren

**Peter Mallett** · 26 Apr 2008, 11:34 (Ref:2187327)

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Originally Posted by ozrevhead

well if he had everything handed to him like Blewis Mamlton things would be different

Until he told Merc that they were crap, he did have that.

maximus · 26 Apr 2008, 11:56 (Ref:2187338)

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Originally Posted by al_sami

Bad times for Mucklaren

Ferrari must be in trouble too then.

**Peter Mallett** · 26 Apr 2008, 12:02 (Ref:2187340)

Don't. But then again the Bahraini and Qatari teams are doing well aren't they?

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