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14 Oct 2018, 10:22 (Ref:3856783) | #26 | |
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That's a bit mean to Fuji, the 2016 WEC race was one of the greatest races I've ever watched. I didn't get to watch this edition but did see some highlights that looked good.
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14 Oct 2018, 11:51 (Ref:3856794) | #27 | |
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Also IMSA's BoP-fests dominated by random safety cars are the definition of 'meh' to me.
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I don't know what happened to the Aston Martins, as they've again been nowhere after qualifying on pole. One of the BMWs did have pace, the other I don't know. #92 Porsche extends their comfortable margin in the championship points table by finishing 1st. |
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WOW, some interest in the series here, with barely two pages in the race thread....
Anyone know why the official WEC site is saying this is the first Porsche GTE PRO victory with the "current model"? I though they won 1-2 at Le Mans with that car. |
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14 Oct 2018, 20:52 (Ref:3856838) | #31 | |
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LMP1 class balance was hardly relevant in that race anyways. There was only one privateer car with a remotely decent race and I don't think they had the right strategy to ever contend either way. At this point I think we probably need to wait until next year for those cars to have enough development to make equalization even viable. Most interesting thing about LMP1 was watching what a pain it was for the BR1 to pass a slower Toyota early on because of how badly it would lose off of every slow corner.
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14 Oct 2018, 23:28 (Ref:3856852) | #32 | |
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Another extremely boring race. It makes F1 looks exciting.
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Certainly not a classic, but held my interest for it's entirety. Nishy's commentary was again outstanding, which helped. He's in a class of his own at the moment (and I include the team working across the Pond when I say that).
For me, any notion of the privateer P1's actually racing Toyota through EOT is long gone (not that I ever believed it was possible in the first place). What we need is race long reliability from those SMP BR1's, because the potential is there for some epic racing between SMP and Rebellion. |
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http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/1...es-podium.html Dempsey Proton should be in big trouble for this, but seems a smack on the wrist is all they'll get. Or will this be taken further...? |
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Yes I've also never had a problem with the WEC app as far as I can remember. Maybe one time a replay didn't work but the live stuff has always worked very well for me. Always HD, no interruptions or buffering.
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Yeah, I could understand a timing issue and I understood Land and others with refueling "challenges" this season. But modifying the code so your time reads plus 2 seconds? You'd think they would notice that and surprised there isn't a tougher penalty. The other guys this season were pushing the regs and there was some ambiguity, this seems black letter and I think exclusion from another race could be warranted. Doubt they would but I don't think it would be over the top.
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I enjoyed the race. I love the Fuji track and 100r into the hairpin is a great turn. There was a lot of passing in the race, just because lmp1 didn't have a challenge to Toyota didn't mean that it was boring. At least to me that is. Once the rain was there, no one would touch Toyota anyway. Even in 2015 when they had by far the slowest lmp1 they were mighty in the rain thanks to the dual kers. For those that said the weight had no affect, they were slower than 2016. 1:22's in qualifying that year vs 1:23's this year. And we know that the Toyota has been breaking lap records before the weight addition. So it looks like it cost them nearly a second. Private teams are almost there but it doesn't help their cause with their unreliability playing a factor. They'll get there I'm sure of it, one way or another.
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McNish has a great deal of insight... and then has to spend half his time correcting Martin Haven's latest piece of shouty uninformed speculation
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Toyota domination and (to-be-resumed-for-LM-2019?) built-in mileage advantage might be boring, but even that + Rebellion vs SMP & Kolles vs Dragonspeed is still infinitely more interesting than what spec galore proam LMP2 as whole has to offer - or BoP-DPi-lucky-dog for that matter. I try to watch ELMS and ASLMS from time to time, but I always fall asleep at some point because it just... doesn't seem to matter. You know that the cars are gonna be exactly the same in the final round as it was in the first round (save some possible ACO special performance waivers for non-Orecas) and that a team with best chosen fake silver drivers is gonna take it away
It is worrying though that they've started to make leaps towards bopping the individual nonhybrid cars now, already they've given weight break, more petrol energy, more fuel and bigger refueling restrictors for NA engines in contrast to turbocharged. That was never the case in the past it may still be "just" engines but who knows what'll happen now that EoT is basically synonym to BoP Last edited by Deleted; 16 Oct 2018 at 17:02. |
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https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/...-cars/3159042/ This article is from prior Silverstone but the line "this is designed to equalise the stint length of the cars" really bugs me, I don't get why every single category needs to have dead equal fuel stints. It's not like anyone's forcing teams to use specific engine here, they can get whatever they wish from literally any supplier The idea that it's not chassis-specific balancing a la DPi is comforting, however if we loose say Dragonspeed for next year and the Orecas are only chassis carrying NA engines still, then it will effectively be chassis specific. Just as it is effectively Toyota that's being measured and not "hybrid" because of the lack of other competitors. And the reason it becomes more BoP than Eot is that there aren't really any pre-determined parameters and timetables for possibly changing performance values, but instead they are done in ad hoc fashion Anyway as I said it's still superior to what else is there, after all it is the only sportscar class out there still allowing actual technology to determine performance, however the signs of change are there similarly to say LMGTE at the turn of the last decade. I think the new hypercar regulations definitely head towards that too, unfortunately |
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