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2 Feb 2005, 01:44 (Ref:1215123)
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Jeff Gordon himself has said that winning the Nascar race at Indy takes care of his indy fix. I mean if racers can find that race just as satisfying then they really have no reason to do Open Wheel Racing.
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3 Feb 2005, 22:46 (Ref:1216968)
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I really don't think the numbers are that scewed at the Canadian and Mexican races. CC's difference is that they tend to quote weekend figures to make it sounds more impressive, while others quote race day figures. The Canadian races are putting ~70k butts in the seats on race day. Last year the IRL had some events (non-Indy) of that size. If you think about it, the bigger baseball stadiums can have nearly that kind of attendance, so I don't see what's so out of wack about that. If you think about the amount of money a baseball team makes over a season with >150 games it's easy to realize that a few big races does not make a company flush with cash.
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4 Feb 2005, 14:21 (Ref:1217440)
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I'm always amazed that any stadium, in any sport, can give you exact attendance numbers for a given event, but not CART or the IRL. I think both series are probably afraid to quote exact figures, because it would just show how bad both series are doing these days... 
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5 Feb 2005, 12:36 (Ref:1218112)
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CART always took 'weekend' figures to be Friday total + Saturday total + Sunday total - which clearly counted a lot of fans 3 times, which is obviously drivel.
Jeff Gordon can be forgiven for not missing Indy-style racing, considering how much success, enjoyment, respect and money he's gained from a decade as NASCAR's leading driver. That doesn't mean he couldn't've had a great and profitable open-wheel career. |
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5 Feb 2005, 14:17 (Ref:1218172)
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Isn't the first Buesch race in Mexico the same weekend as the season-opener at Homestead??? I thought both took place on March 6.... If true, Adrian won't be at the season-opener to support and assist his IRL team??? If so, that speaks volumes to me.... |
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5 Feb 2005, 14:18 (Ref:1218175)
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Chip Ganassi is not at every race his team enters either - given that he has outfits in GrandAm, IndyCar and NASCAR - does that speak volumes too?
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5 Feb 2005, 14:25 (Ref:1218181)
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Well, we still don't know if Adrian is doing the Bush race, or did I miss something?
Its still talk right now, I think... |
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5 Feb 2005, 14:41 (Ref:1218189)
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Indeed. There's no official confirmation.
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11 Feb 2005, 07:13 (Ref:1222730)
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11 Feb 2005, 08:44 (Ref:1222765)
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It's a road course, so there's not a problem with having to have "friends" to draft, either.
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11 Feb 2005, 15:26 (Ref:1223020)
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Good luck Adrian - maybe he'll get a chance to do a few other road races, be it in NASCAR or SportsCars, over the next few seasons. He probably won't mind too much iif his team continues to shine though.
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11 Feb 2005, 16:05 (Ref:1223047)
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Tim, why do you think this is not a good thing for Adrian to miss Homestead? Seems like this one-off is a good opportunity for him and Mexican racers PR-wise.
The article is noting that AF is focusing on the Team Owner thing this season which I think will actually be good for the Team as he won't have to split his focus. |
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11 Feb 2005, 17:54 (Ref:1223135)
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It would do Adrian well to concentrate on being a team owner, because his new driver, Scott Sharp, has been looking very racy since coming over to his team and the Honda engine. I think there is a decent to reasonable chance for Adrian to become the IRL champ as a team owner this season.
Havn't heard much about Matsurra though... |
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11 Feb 2005, 18:00 (Ref:1223137)
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Adrian has a management structure in place who were quite capable of running the team while he drove - I'm sure they'll manage!
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11 Feb 2005, 18:12 (Ref:1223149)
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This is great news for everyone really - Adrian gets a chance to do a different type of racing and maybe open up a new opportunity, Mexican fans get to see their two favourite drivers in action, NASCAR are almost guaranteed a successful event, and the team will run perfectly well that weekend without him.
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11 Feb 2005, 18:38 (Ref:1223170)
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Yeesh! Does NASCAR really need another successful event Boots!?
 I know Adrians team will get along fine without him KB, but I thought it was a great way to point out how well my favorite driver is doing these days! 
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11 Feb 2005, 19:05 (Ref:1223191)
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Yes, Sharp seems to be running well in testing.
I hope he proves me wrong, because I had written him off last year. |
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11 Feb 2005, 19:40 (Ref:1223209)
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11 Feb 2005, 22:39 (Ref:1223331)
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To me, Sharp was never really as good as the guys who came in from CART a couple of years ago, and I felt it was Toyota's 2003 advantage that kept Scott (and Al Jr, who'd been past his best for some time) up the front that year. All the same, he's clearly popular and much-loved, as well as being one of the last links to the IRL's roots and original 'vision', so it'd be good to see him have a resurgence.
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12 Feb 2005, 02:59 (Ref:1223430)
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and to be honest with you, I'll never buy or drink another Tecate beer...he gave them lots of ROI as a driver and team owner....only to have them dump him when he had a good season and a great finish to the year... His race wins were celebrated in Mexico, according to press reports I read, and he had a big following in the stands at the race in Fontana.... Also, I don't want anyone to help NAZ-CAW-WUHR....they are ruining motorsports...and I don't see how his participation in that Busch race contributes in any way to his "focus as a car owner".... Finally, I want open-wheel racing to completely implode in Mexico....because I want the ALMS to go there, and with certain entities and individiuals who have interests in the circuits down there, it probably won't happen...they backed out on a deal with ALMS down there two seasons ago.... There... Now I have calmed down.... Not directed at you personally, John....you know me better than that... But Adrian didn't deserve to lose his Mexican support...he was on a roll....and I believe that there were other forces behind the withdrawal of his sponsor support...shall we say "Mexican Racing Interests" and just leave it at that.... Because sponsors support winners....and Adrian had the strongest finish of anyone in the Series last year with 3 wins in the last five events... Last edited by Tim Northcutt; 12 Feb 2005 at 03:04. |
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12 Feb 2005, 03:18 (Ref:1223436)
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Well stated Tim as always. No offense intended, none taken!
I understand better where you are coming from and it is a point worth pondering. |
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14 Feb 2005, 15:36 (Ref:1225249)
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I can understand where you're coming from there Tim, but these things happen. Sponsors should support winners, but sometimes that's still not the best move economically - Tecate clearly felt they weren't getting enough out of Adrian racing in the IRL, especially if the switch generated negative hype in Mexico. The irony is that Corona have probably gained more in 2 years of sponsoring Lavin (who is definitely NOT a winner) than Tecate have in 4 years of sponsoring Adrian's team).
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14 Feb 2005, 18:00 (Ref:1225462)
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what did adrian expect irl has no races in mexico i dont think its televised in mexico so it makes sense for his sponsers to pull the plug if he couldnt see it coming then he is a idiot why sponser a team or driver were your biggest market cant see it,but i would like to see him behind the wheel again
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14 Feb 2005, 18:37 (Ref:1225505)
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Bit of a bash there, sr230772.
I'm sure the IRL is on Mexican TV. Adrian moved because Honda wanted his team to - and the team is doing very well. He's not an "idiot" by any stretch of the imagination. |
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14 Feb 2005, 18:48 (Ref:1225517)
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i dont think it is on mexican tv as for the honda money i cant put it into words so idiot the most polite way
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