[STCC] STCC 2012 News & Rumors

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by FIRE

I would say there are better drivers around, but maybe this is part of SEAT's return in WTCC in 2013.

I'd love so, but STCC is moving towards NGTC...

[duke_toaster]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

The DTC had a few Leon's as grid fillers a few years back, followed by DTC Light (off the top of my head it was Clio Cup, but Denmark has god knows how many spec series so it might as well have been the Pugs). Neither worked particularly well if you ask me and I would rather have done without them. Having a B-class to field does not work well in sprint racing as many of the tracks will be short enough for them to become a factor as lapped traffic. Unless you go for the Leons, but I'd be surprised to see even one appear. I would preferably have seven cars (as DTC had in its last year) and no B-fillers than a run what you brung to make the numbers look good. I have yet to see a last-minute field filling act like this work out and look professional. Lord, they're even in the way in ETCC!

The reason I suggested the Leons because IIRC if you play around with the electronics and take some ballast out you can get them to around Super 2000 speeds (someone here posted some stories about how the UK Seat Cup cars had extra ballast thrown in them because they'd be as fast as BTCC gear).

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I'd love so, but STCC is moving towards NGTC...

That's a point - which year will NGTC motors be allowed, and when for full NGTC cars?

[auroan]

So... IPS have pulled out of TTA and rejoined STCC under the VW banner. Interesting !

[Jimmy Magnusson]

Originally Posted by auroan

So... IPS have pulled out of TTA and rejoined STCC under the VW banner. Interesting !

He wasn't ever officially under the TTA banner but it's still an interesting change in direction for him. Probably the best deal him and his dad could have gotten out of it, so good on them.

[Pettersson]

Thomas Engström and Honda Racing/Seco Tools will do STCC 2012 in an ex-Dynamics Civic (2011 car). They plan to replace it with a 2012 NGTC Civic somewhere around the Gothenburg round. Great news for STCC!

[Mr Pink]

Good news indeed for STCC. It seems like both series might be pretty competative next year, I wonder how that is going to work out.

I might just be overly pessimistic but I have a hard time seeing how a country wich such a limited interest in motorsport is going to cope with two series like this.

[MJones94]

Originally Posted by Pettersson

Thomas Engström and Honda Racing/Seco Tools will do STCC 2012 in an ex-Dynamics Civic (2011 car). They plan to replace it with a 2012 NGTC Civic somewhere around the Gothenburg round. Great news for STCC!

Brilliant news! Since the Civic was a pretty dominating car last year in the BTCC it will be interesting to see how it gets on on different tracks.

[duke_toaster]

Looks very interesting ... would that make it the first full NGTC car in Sweden?

Is there anything from the rumour mill as to if anyone in Sweden's planning on building a full NGTC car?

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by MJones94

Brilliant news! Since the Civic was a pretty dominating car last year in the BTCC it will be interesting to see how it gets on on different tracks.

Should do well on the tight, twisty tracks over there. Turn-in has always been a strong point of the recent Team Dynamics cars.

[Andrew Abbott]

It is good to see the real touring car championship in Sweden getting the entries now. Looking forward to seeing some more over the Winter!

[rustyfan]

Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

So while TTA has been dead quiet for the past weeks, STCC has not stoped with the newsflow.

STCC secures new four-year TV deal which means STCC will be shown live in "Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland with start in 2012 to 2015."

So, 4 years with live coverage in the whole scandinavia, should have come 15 years ago! Oh well, better late then never. Should encurage new teams to come in!

Just a little update in regards to the TV-coverage: for us getting the Canal+ Sport package via ComHem it just got pricier, increased to 399 SEK/month. A tad steep, at least for the likes of me who only really is interested in IndyCar and STCC of the things Canal+ Sport will air in 2012 (which, as far as I can tell, does not include return of either DTM or BTCC that were dropped before the 2011 season).

[Pettersson]

Chevrolet Motorsport Sweden have bought 2 of RML's 2011 spec WTCC Cruzes. They will test together with the WTCC team very soon. Not sure if they will run a 2 litre turbo unit. There are some speculations about them getting a dispensation for the 1,6T in STCC and that we might see Rydell in WTCC or ETCC... But that's just pure speculation until we get some confirmation.

I thought that was of interest since TcT don't have much interest in STCC these days.

[c8nay]

Surely they must of been given the go ahead to use a 1.6t in the STCC this year then if they are hoping to do the opening WTCC rounds as well. Unless they plan on doing a lot of engine swapping between testing, the WTCC races and the STCC opener.

I wonder if they have had to change their plans because of RML's BTCC pull out meaning a lack of NGTC car or engine from RML to share.

[markf8691]

Is Seat Sweden still supporting Daniel Motorsport? Just i read somewere else they had withdrew?

And can anybody tell me, will you be able to watch the STCC online for free this year?

[Pettersson]

Originally Posted by markf8691

Is Seat Sweden still supporting Daniel Motorsport? Just i read somewere else they had withdrew?

And can anybody tell me, will you be able to watch the STCC online for free this year?

SEAT/DMS is not listed on stcc.se, they were before but now they're gone. No one really knows what's happening. Rumors says Alx Danielsson will join TTA (for Flash), but that's just rumors. There haven't been any articles or so about DMS, and at least I haven't heard anything else from other sources.

There might be a chance you can watch the races on SVT Play, as the highlights show will be broadcasted on SVT.

[Pettersson]

A few news about STCC, since I got an extra 5 mins to spare.

It's been confirmed in Swedish media that STCC will not be able to race in Gothenburg anymore. City Race Arena want to focus on TTA, because "that's where all longterm manufacturers and importers are involved" (?). Do I have to remind you that Volvo and Polestar are owners of the track?

And Volvo apparently had a meeting with STCC (not sure what the purpose of that meeting was, I don't buy the PR crap), and Volvo said on TTA's website that they are happier with their decision on TTA now than before the meeting. Draw your own conclusions based on the interview with Derek Crabb, I don't know what to believe anymore. Silly season hasn't been this silly for a long time

[Jimmy Magnusson]

Originally Posted by Pettersson

A few news about STCC, since I got an extra 5 mins to spare.

It's been confirmed in Swedish media that STCC will not be able to race in Gothenburg anymore. City Race Arena want to focus on TTA, because "that's where all longterm manufacturers and importers are involved" (?). Do I have to remind you that Volvo and Polestar are owners of the track?

Heh. Doesn't anyone in Sweden know how to write proper contratcs? Uphill struggle doesn't begin to describe it

[PorscheFanNo1]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

Heh. Doesn't anyone in Sweden know how to write proper contratcs?

None in the STCC organisation anyway! Doubt you'll be able to pull one of those on lets say Flash or Dick Jönsson Wigroth

[PorscheFanNo1]

Brothers Ahlberg to drive Audi A4 in STCC

So these cars where last used with backings from Audi in 2007 with Stippler and Tommy Kristoffersson as drivers. KMS lost Audi backings for 2008 when Tommy and Lvov drove the cars (Lvov managed to crash his Audi atleast once each raceweekend). 1 car where also used in 2009 by Johan Kristoffersson.

I'm guessing these chassies are rather old, not sure when they where built but either for the 2006 or the 2007 season is my guess, and they have had no developement (or very little) after the 2007 season.

Am I the only one thinking BMS gets to rent those cars from KMS really cheap only so VW will have 2 more cars to beat on the track? Maybe even KMS/VW/Biogas takes money from their own pocket only to see those cars on the track, or lend the cars out to BMS for free even. Why else would anyone hire cars with no developemnt for the last 5 years?

I think this year we will see really big gaps between the top 6 cars or so and the rest of the feild that will be several seconds off the pace, in contrast to last year where we could have top 15cars within 1 second.

[Jimmy Magnusson]

Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

None in the STCC organisation anyway! Doubt you'll be able to pull one of those on lets say Flash or Dick Jönsson Wigroth

Turns out you can

The cars are 06:es with what should be 07 updates. It's the same situation as Mattias' Alfa and that was competitive enough to win races last year. The cars were last used in 09 and were good enough then. And they've actually bought the cars, not rented them.

[PorscheFanNo1]

Thanks, wanst too far off then Why would then buy them? Didnt they say BMS wants to go full NGTC for 2013? Buying 2 S2000 cars for only one season seems odd to me.

[DS"]

I guess STCC suffers from the IRL syndrome. Fill your field at all costs, even if it means putting five-year-old cars on the grid. What's the current STCC entry list anyway?

[Jimmy Magnusson]

Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

Thanks, wanst too far off then Why would then buy them? Didnt they say BMS wants to go full NGTC for 2013? Buying 2 S2000 cars for only one season seems odd to me.

I do not think they were expensive.

Originally Posted by DS"

I guess STCC suffers from the IRL syndrome. Fill your field at all costs, even if it means putting five-year-old cars on the grid. What's the current STCC entry list anyway?

If the car is good enough, it's good enough. For reference, see Andersson's results last year. These are the confirmed entries as for now:

#1 Rickard Rydell / Chevrolet Cruze / Chevrolet Motorsport Sweden
#7 Michel Nykjaer / Chevrolet Cruze / Chevrolet Motorsport Sweden
#2 Jordi Gené / Volkswagen Scirocco / Team Biogas.se/KMS
#3 Johan Kristoffersson / Volkswagen Scirocco / Team Biogas.se/KMS
#4 Johan Stureson / Volkswagen Scirocco / Team Biogas.se/IPS
#5 Patrik Olsson / Volkswagen Scirocco / Team Biogas.se/KMS
#6 Tomas Engström / Honda Civic / Honda Racing
#8 Joakim Ahlberg / Audi A4 / BMS Event
#9 Andreas Ahlberg / Audi A4 / BMS Event

Then there's Hoffsten's Alfa which I don't think has a full season confirmed yet, and Santosh Berggren and Robin Appelqvist who are yet to reveal their packages yet.

To add to that, apparently Danielsson isn't out of the game yet with one NGTC Leon. There's been murmurs that G-Rex will come back with their Mercedes as well.

[PorscheFanNo1]

According to Eric Lindgren the cars where built for the 2005 season. Even if they are updated to 2007 spec, they will be slow. Kristoffersson didnt have much success with the car in 2009 and when he drove the Scirocco the year after he was instantly much quicker.
Cant see these Audis coming anywhere near the front of the Privateers Cup even, the E90s for example will be so much quicker, if anyone decides to run them.

[DS"]

Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

According to Eric Lindgren the cars where built for the 2005 season. Even if they are updated to 2007 spec, they will be slow. Kristoffersson didnt have much success with the car in 2009 and when he drove the Scirocco the year after he was instantly much quicker.
Cant see these Audis coming anywhere near the front of the Privateers Cup even, the E90s for example will be so much quicker, if anyone decides to run them.

Well, the TTA teams might have some E90s, but I doubt that they'll sell them to their opposition. But there are still plenty of E90s around in Europe, so that shouldn't be a problem. But even with additional BMWs, the grid still looks sad. Maybe they'll allow Leon Supercopa and Mini Challenge cars, just like ETCC.