SuperGP Shock Format Change!!

[NewsStalker]

- For the first time in history V8 Supercars will add a third endurance race to the calendar in addition to iconic races the L&H 500 at Phillip Island and the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000

So V8SCA try to rewrite history yet again?

26 Aug 2001, 16 Sep 2001 and 7 Oct 2001 never happened?

[Trev Campbell]

Great circuit modification !!!!! They've taken out the only part of the circuit where passing was even a remote possibility !!!!

I personally can't wait until this event goes the way of Canberra.

[NewsStalker]

Originally Posted by Trev Campbell

Great circuit modification !!!!! They've taken out the only part of the circuit where passing was even a remote possibility !!!!

I personally can't wait until this event goes the way of Canberra.

Rubbish - V8SCA always have a section of trfack that presents heaps of possibilities for passing!

It's called The Pits (take whichever meaning you want)

[anthony81901]

Originally Posted by NewsStalker

So V8SCA try to rewrite history yet again?

26 Aug 2001, 16 Sep 2001 and 7 Oct 2001 never happened?

What event was on 16 Sep 2001?

Of course for those old enough to remember, during the 80s there used to be a 5 race Australian Endurance Championship with 250-300 km races at Amaroo, Oran & Surfers Paradise in addition to Sandown and Bathurst as well as 2 500km races in New Zealand at the beginning of the year.

[Scrut]

What a joke.

Lets hope it does not cost anyone the champinship.

Our full time expert drivers have enough trouble keeping
their cars of the walls, how will the overseas has beens
handle it.

[Matthew Ronke]

I wonder if they are planning an IPL style bid for the registered International drivers?

[Bevan-L]

GTRMagic why do all your threads have to start with a ??

I'm pretty sure u gonna die of a heart attack if you gonna get shocked each time you start a thread.

[Downoz]

According to the information of the release it will be OK for Murph and Ingall to compete together.

Sounds good.

[D.R.T.]

As per usual V8SA totally misses the point on internation exposure and categories.

Reeks of desperation. Its sad that this event has turned into this

[RotorFan]

Originally Posted by Bevan-L

GTRMagic why do all your threads have to start with a ??

I'm pretty sure u gonna die of a heart attack if you gonna get shocked each time you start a thread.

You're hilarious Bevan

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Downoz

According to the information of the release it will be OK for Murph and Ingall to compete together.

Sounds good.

They've only got two (2) years to turn it into an international event for tourism purposes ... dont treat the people making the decision as dills .. VESA are setting this driver criteria, aiming to prove international relevance.

VESA never got the WA Government wanting an international event (the WRC) when VESA wanted a street race .. deja vu .. I dont underestimate TC but ?

[mountainstar]

Bizarre is the only thing I can think of, totally bizarre they are doing this.

I remember TC trying to talk out the champcar/irl/A1 race and get those series out of there saying it would be better to have a V8SC only event. Well now is his big chance.

[racer69]

No offence to Christian Fittipaldi, Mark Blundell or Scott Pruett, but if the event is hinging on international drivers and these are the 'marquee' signings on the day the event is announced, you have to worry abit.


Why the big deal made out of drivers staying in their own cars for Bathurst, supposedly to help the fans identify with the drivers, but they let this format slip through to the keeper

The latest attempt to undermine Bathurst a little??

[sizzle]

I wonder how much the threat of not returning to Ipswich had on the process for this.

[Crash Test]

Dear God, get a load of the Luddites on here.

I suppose Bathurst should be a 500 mile race and Valiant Pacers should be allowed to compete again.

Where did people whine before the invention of internet forums?

What would be better for motorsport? This re-incarnation, or no race at all?

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by NewsStalker

So V8SCA try to rewrite history yet again?

26 Aug 2001, 16 Sep 2001 and 7 Oct 2001 never happened?

yes what happened on the 16th Sept 2001

26 aug was QLD
7 Oct was bathurst

theer was a non enduro round at winton on the weekend on 9th of september

Sandown was at year end in december

[racer69]

Interesting the $2.5 million 'Grand Slam' mentioned.... what does the overall series champion get in prizemoney?

Originally Posted by Crash Test

Dear God, get a load of the Luddites on here.

I suppose Bathurst should be a 500 mile race and Valiant Pacers should be allowed to compete again.

Where did people whine before the invention of internet forums?

What would be better for motorsport? This re-incarnation, or no race at all?

I just find it odd a big deal is made & restrictions put in place for the driver line-ups at Bathurst, almost discouraging international participation in an event which is easily the most well known series event overseas (and probably second only to the AGP in general) yet there is an apparent free-for-all allowed for the Gold Coast...

[Crash Test]

I'd assume it would be easier to attract international acts for one weekend rather than two per season? A three day meeting on the Gold Coast would be much more accessible than a four day one in Western New South Wales.

[V8Bobby]

Originally Posted by Crash Test

Dear God, get a load of the Luddites on here.

I suppose Bathurst should be a 500 mile race and Valiant Pacers should be allowed to compete again.

Where did people whine before the invention of internet forums?

What would be better for motorsport? This re-incarnation, or no race at all?

I'm with you. Anything that varies slightly from the norm is ridiculed and instantly shot down on here.

I think the idea sounds great - will mix up the field, give us different results and generally create a new unique format. Again, V8's are here to entertain and this sounds like fun.

[mayhem]

One of the weirdest ideas I have heard, what a circus. Im thinking like others that there will be significant damage to vehicles at this meeting, being a non-compromising street track, that will now feature 'guest' drivers who really couldnt care if a car needs to be rebuilt Monday morning.

[Steve Carter]

Viewers and punters voted with their feet last year - it was boring as bat .... if Cochrane continues to push a one formulae event (V8 Supercars) you can bury this once great carnival/event in 2011 - the guys a knob!!

[RedZedMikey]

Originally Posted by V8Bobby

I'm with you. Anything that varies slightly from the norm is ridiculed and instantly shot down on here.

I think the idea sounds great - will mix up the field, give us different results and generally create a new unique format. Again, V8's are here to entertain and this sounds like fun.

I beg to differ.
For me, the issue is not that the event varies from the norm - it's that the new proposal won't vary enough from the norm. The idea does has its positives as stated by you, but will it get me to shell out my $ and make a trip up from Victoria? Sorry, no. I want to see more than just V8 Supercars and local supports for that sort of trip. I'm not a fan of street circuits normally, so to get me to go I want an international series there; something "extra" in the way of motorsport, not the same Cornflakes in a different box. Bands won't do it for me either - I go to a race to watch racing.

I note that GP2 and FIA GT1 were given consideration, but then dismissed. If GT1, or the Japanese GT series were on the card, then I would have been there with bells on - much the same way as I made a holiday in SA for the Race of 1000 years, and made 4/5 day weekends out of both the Bathurst 24 hours. I didn't need to travel for the 2 LeMans type enduros at Sandown in the 80's - but I was there. Sports cars rule!

I certainly understand the misgivings about the GP2 or GT1 if they were to have been stand alone events. To create an "international event" such as they are hoping to create I personally believe an international class as a double act with V8SC would have been a much better option. And 3 mates would have come with me, and brought their dollars too.

[NewsStalker]

Originally Posted by anthony81901

What event was on 16 Sep 2001?

OK you win - wrong 500

Although not quite - 2003 saw a 300 km at QLD Raceway - was that a sprint or enduro round?
Sandown had a 500 km
and of course there was Bathurst -

Guess it comes down to the definition of 'Enduro'

[bortall]

Originally Posted by Crash Test

What would be better for motorsport? This re-incarnation, or no race at all?

NO RACE AT ALL - simple really!!!

[Senna05]

This wreaks of some pencil pusher with no idea of the sport saying "If you want to keep the round and the dollars, you need "some" form of international exposure". A knee-jerk reaction to claim a large sum of money.

These people need to realise, that with limited testing and alot of "older" international drivers (I am not sure if Mark Blundell has steered in a while) that there is a bloody good chance that championships WILL be ruined, and that there is a significant risk of carnage.

This is an absolutely horrible idea, and I really doubt it will achieve any more international exposure than a part of the sports columns of the local rags for the drivers.

I hope that no-one is hurt and that no-ones championships are ruined!